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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 08 Jun 2016 22:00 - 2816 of 12628

Haystack "Because the Electoral Commission virtually insisted on it"

I've looked for some reference to that statement but i can't find any..

The only reference i can find is this....

The government following discussions with the Electoral Commission,
and strong cross party support will extend the ability to register for 48 hours.

It was that weasel tim farron and 3 lives corbyn with the full backing of
Downing st that 'arranged' the extension...

grannyboy - 08 Jun 2016 22:51 - 2817 of 12628

You can tell the remainers are really worried....They've been trying to
belittle Nigel Farage all day, it would appear they've reverted to type,
because NF gets through to the ordinary man/woman in the street..

Haystack - 08 Jun 2016 22:59 - 2818 of 12628

The Guardian, Mirror and Financial Times.

A commission spokesperson said: “There will be many people who wanted to register to vote last night and were not able to. We have said to the government this morning they should consider options for introducing legislation as soon as possible that would extend the deadline.

Electoral Commission says voter registration deadline should be extended after website crashed

Britain’s electoral watchdog called for the government to extend the window for registration, which shut on Tuesday evening. It comes after a surge in applications caused the government’s website to crash last night.

Dil - 09 Jun 2016 08:29 - 2819 of 12628

Anyone watch Andrew Neil grilling Osbourne on BBC yesteterday. Imo Osbourne came across as a right lying twat.

That interview won't have done the remain side any favours.

Dil - 09 Jun 2016 08:39 - 2820 of 12628

Some of the millions registering to vote recently won't even be able to vote. Some like my daughter will have received letters to register as their 18th birthday falls within the next year.

I've spoken to many people over the in out issue and all bar one are in favour of out. The under 25's I've spoken to besides my kids have all said they won't be voting except two and they will be voting out because 'my dad told me to'.

One 19 year old last night asked me if it's true that we won't be able to buy Milky Stars if we vote out because it says on the packet 'not to be sold outside EU' (there's a picture on Twitter she showed me ). Bless her :)

cynic - 09 Jun 2016 08:40 - 2821 of 12628

for a change it is a matter of FACT that remain mps outnumber brexiters about 5/2

MaxK - 09 Jun 2016 08:45 - 2822 of 12628

Not hard to see why c, most of them are troughers and wont wander too far from the manna.

MaxK - 09 Jun 2016 08:49 - 2823 of 12628

In the meantime, hypocrisy rools...



Dr Sarah Wollaston defects from Vote Leave to remain campaign


Former GP who was chosen as Tory candidate in UK’s first open primary says her decision pivoted on likely damage to the NHS


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/09/dr-sarah-wollaston-defects-vote-leave-remain-campaign
....................................................
Ambulances stacked 16 deep...


Portsmouth ambulances late to two life-threatening incidents, says report


Inspectors give Queen Alexandra hospital ‘inadequate’ rating after saying patients were left at ‘unacceptable risk’



http://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jun/09/portsmouth-ambulances-late-to-two-life-threatening-incidents-says-report

cynic - 09 Jun 2016 08:55 - 2824 of 12628

unfair max ..... to hold views to remain is no more misguided or worse than it is to want out ..... what is appalling in my eyes is that anyone who has their pension paid out brussels is forbidden to speak out against eu without forfeiting their pension


an interesting discussion between 10 of us at the golf club yesterday - admittedly nearly all old farts - was that 6 or 7 would vote out
there was also a very valid point that a narrow "out" majority would do more to wake up the eurocrats than a narrow "in"
in the latter case, there would be no pressure to do anything at all


i just hope that there is a large turnout, certainly in excess of 70% ..... apathy has no place in this important issue

MaxK - 09 Jun 2016 09:09 - 2825 of 12628

What annoyed me c , is the Wollaston burd hooting on about the hospital failures, yet ignoring the impossible position it's in, more and more people, less money.

Somethings got to give.

will10 - 09 Jun 2016 09:09 - 2826 of 12628

Maxk

Different things.

Wollaston is pissed with Brexit untruths about NHS funding post EU exit. She now has a view that we are actually better off remaining In. She has a right to vote as she wishes.

Portsmouth hospital had poor systems for dealing with patients coming to ER.

Time for Boris to repaint the bus. Expect the Brexit defection to be on the news all day.
The Brexiters will try to discredit Wollaston rather than correct the lies.

MaxK - 09 Jun 2016 09:11 - 2827 of 12628

What would you know about Portsmouth hospital will?

will10 - 09 Jun 2016 09:21 - 2828 of 12628

Maxk

On the news this morning.

I actually listened to the bloke that wrote the inspection report on Portsmouth Hospital ER.
The hospital chief replied, acknowledged the problem and apologised for it.
No mention that it was an In / Out. EU consideration.

That's all I know. Just what the experts said.

Please share if you know something else

iturama - 09 Jun 2016 09:31 - 2829 of 12628

I'm sure this is just gossip about Gideon (Giddy to his pals) and our Dave but stranger things have supposed to have happened. Pity the pig.

Natalie Rowe is the woman who outed Chancellor George Osborne as a masochistic cokehead. Yes, according to Ms Rowe the finances of the United Kingdom are in the hands of a man who likes to crawl around the floor having his arse slapped while under the influence of cocaine.
Ms Rowe candidly told Sonia Poulton of events at parties that were attended by the so-called elite including the now Prime Minister David Cameron. It seems that the illegal use of drugs is OK for the toffs but working class must serve time for possession, using and dealing.
It is said that Cameron’s wife, when in University, was known as Snowy; I wonder why?

cynic - 09 Jun 2016 09:59 - 2830 of 12628

what a load of garbage ..... let's trot out the ancient max mosley story but change the names

grannyboy - 09 Jun 2016 10:54 - 2831 of 12628

will10, you're so gullable...."That's all I know. Just what the experts said"


You come across as a 29 year old teenager who's just dropped out of uni...

Most of the older voters have been through the 'UNIVERSITY OF LIFE' and can see where the EU is heading.....




iturama - 09 Jun 2016 11:01 - 2832 of 12628

Why not? No more garbage than the stuff Gideon has been spouting. I haven't heard anyone being sued for the cocaine allegations which were in the newspapers. The beast of Bolsover was ejected from the Commons for repeating the allegations. Musn't disturb parliamentary decorum.

As for the size of the out win, I hope it is a landslide. But like Dave's immigration manifesto, that is an ambition, not a realistic target.

will10 - 09 Jun 2016 11:24 - 2833 of 12628

Grannyb

29yr old teenager you say.
No.... nearly twice that age. As far as EU concerned.. I'm voting In for economic reasons but have many political EU concerns. But it's always about economics in the end.

I responded to Maxk. I actually listened to those that were the experts on the Portsmouth ER failings. what's gullible about that.?? Do you know more than the experts?
Give us the benefit of that "university of life "experience you have on this subject please.

It had nothing to do with Wollaston or EU.

2517GEORGE - 09 Jun 2016 11:29 - 2834 of 12628

will10 is voting in for economic reasons----

Edited from money morning:-

The EU’s share of global GDP keeps on falling

When Britain joined the Common Market in 1973, the EU (as it is now) produced 38% of the world’s goods and services – 38% of global GDP.

In 1993, when the EU formally began, it produced just under 25%. Today the EU produces just 17%.

That’s a 55% drop.

2517

cynic - 09 Jun 2016 11:32 - 2835 of 12628

much of that decline can assuredly be attributed to the growth of the chinese and indian economies
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