Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK spot on.

Lets RUN this country not other countries.

Camoron is trying to set up postions for when he loses the next election.

so you can't differentiate between a country's obligations and your own personal views and prejudices? ...... how come i used to think you intelligent :-) ?

GF.

I have some sympathy for your stance and the increasing UK's economical and social problems under the inept CaMORON limit the values of UK support or interventions.

However, because of history and economic future we are involved in the ME.

How we play the present situation will be reviewed for years to come in the M.E. and alter their relationship with us.

"No Man Is An Island

No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

John Donne


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N.

This goes back to a reorganisation and rewriting of the "rules" of the UN.

Dan Dare, did it in 1951.

The UN needs teeth, more honesty and basic "decency".

The use of chemical weapons must be confronted because they have the power to cause mass deaths and most of those deaths are in the general population who are not involved in the conflict.

Excelent point made Fred.

Im just so fed up with this spending whilst others in society are here in this country so let down by the government.


ps, I dont mean scroungers.

surprised you didn't observe that donne referred to europe only and thus m/e could be left to fend for itself :-)

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i'm afraid that wishing for UN to have more teeth is just a pipedream of a pipedream .... totally impossible to rewrite the rules and have them accepted by even 15% of the members

Anyone know people in Cyprus? There have been extra air force movements there today and air strikes would come from the bases there. Look at the map. Being just off the west coast of Syria, it is within missile distance. Syria has already said there would be a strong response.

old news re build-up in akrotiri but plenty of other options too
indeed as it's so blatant, it's quite likely to be just a feint

Manuel.

I did but my vision stretched further.

Someday the rules will be amended or the UN will become defunct like previous organisations.

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Just listened to J Baez.

We shall overcome someday.
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Hopes!!!!!

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If USA etc. intervenes I think it will be bloody!

not you and europe you muppet - fishfinger!

and yes, it is certainly not unlikely that UN will crumble away in the fullness of time, just as did the League of Nations

and yes, of course USA will intervene in Syria though hopefully with the sanction of UN ..... for sure UK and France will support this in some way as will the Arab League though rather more discreetly

For the sentimental ;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Joan_Baez_performs_We_Shall_Overcome_Feb_09_2010.ogv/220px--Joan_Baez_performs_We_Shall_Overcome_Feb_09_2010.ogv.jpg

USA will intervene in Syria with or without the sanction of the UN. The USA will do exactly as it wants, it has always been the case and one of these days the USA will bite off a bit more than it can chew.

been sucking on a lemon or did you swallow a wasp?

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DB,

What the USA thinks advantageous to itself at this moment in time.

The time span of a day trader comes into mind.

When you rely on your muscle, the long term outcome is not considered, as you have a belief that you can batter the other group into submitting to your way of thinking.
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I had hoped for more from Obama, but no more from Camoron, but both are stuck with present circumstances partly as a result of Bush and Blair previous stupidity.

But Camoron is also exploiting the stage for political gain and distraction from his economic mismanagement.

(Wants his place as a failed war leader, as well as the PM who failed the UK economy.)


Interesting to see what the vote in the political game will be tomorrow.

Check the meaning of syllogism. You may mean a tautology but it is not syllogism. The reason I described the use of CWs was to explain the reasons for responding and because there was a post above saying that it did not matter how people died.

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I thought I was cynical.

But the buggers get away with it.

'!'
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I remember studying Aristotean syllogisms at school. A syllogism is nothing like the statement I made. Syllogisms are methods of drawing a conclusions from two premises. They are of the style:- this is true, this is also true an therefore we can deduce something else.

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