goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 29 Aug 2013 17:08
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fred - just to pick up on bits of your post .....
military intervention - by whom and on what grounds?
Russia and China - lots and lots of ulterior motive and zero other!
delinquents - and what do you do with delinquents? you give them a "spanking" ..... and the consequences of doing so internationally?
should be a revision of the UN - i don't disagree but as i wrtote yesterday, that is just a pipedream of a pipedream
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does it matter if cameron loses tonight's vote?
not really, but for sure i would like to have seen a free vote, which clearly this is not
would a "no vote" in the commons send out any serious message to assad?
no, but then nor would a "yes vote"
will there be some sort of strike against syria?
must be odds-on though not quite a racing certainty
will it make any difference?
pretty doubtful as it is likely to be little more than symbolic, notwithstanding that it will be targetted specifically
will russia or china do anything?
no; the pair of them will just rattle their sabres a bit for domestic consumption
Haystack
- 29 Aug 2013 17:33
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This all the result of the international community doing too little and too late. The same happened in Kosovo, Lybia etc.
cynic
- 29 Aug 2013 17:40
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do you mean labia or libya?
Haystack
- 29 Aug 2013 17:47
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Which do you prefer and why?
It is an alternate spelling and also Leebia.
doodlebug4
- 29 Aug 2013 18:03
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We, using the 'royal we', as a country seem to spend £millions on foreign aid and £millions trying to 'save' other countries. Why? As a taxpayer I give contributions to various charities in this country that I think are worthwhile, as I'm sure most of the posters on this bulletin board do, but I really object to the fact that our politicians take it upon themselves to pump vast amounts of taxpayer's money into trying to sort out other countries problems - for whatever reason. A few more scud missiles here and there and another few more £millions down the pan in Syria and what will that achieve?
hilary
- 29 Aug 2013 18:39
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Doods,
The essence is when you say 'our politicians take it upon themselves'.
Politicians are democratically elected to represent the wishes of the electorate in both local and national issues. I wouldn't mind too much about Syrian military intervention if the majority of the electorate wanted it, but every survey I've seen suggests that 75% of the people in this country don't want military intervention. So why is the government so hell bent on intervention? They shouldn't be taking matters like this upon themselves when the public clearly aren't interested in what happens in Syria.
Compare that, on the other hand, to the issue of an EU membership referendum which the majority of the great British public do want, but which won't happen before 2017 (if at all), and it's no wonder people are pissed off with the fat slimeball who is PM. He's getting it right on the economy imo, but he really is screwing up unnecessarily on so many other things.
If or when you ever find a person to lead the country who does actually respect the wishes of the majority of the people, then he'll stay in office for a very long time.
mnamreh
- 29 Aug 2013 19:21
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cynic
- 29 Aug 2013 19:33
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i hope some of you watched john simpson on the box at about 19:00 ..... here was someone intelligent and non-partisan who had something sensible to say
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separately .....
should a politician only reflect the majority view of those who bothered to vote?
is the average member of the public remotely capable of thinking beyond what's on television tonight and should he have a pizza or macdonalds for dinner (sorry - tea)?
Haystack
- 29 Aug 2013 19:37
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The general public are mostly wrong about a whole range of issues and can be ignored for the most part. The alternative is that we would have capital punishment. In fact we would probably have public executions being shown on TV (after the watershed).
mnamreh
- 29 Aug 2013 19:57
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hilary
- 29 Aug 2013 20:01
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In fact we would probably have public executions being shown on TV (after the watershed).
What a brilliant idea! Can I nominate Old Bollock Chops to be the first (before or after the watershed). I'm sure CC will second my proposal...
doodlebug4
- 29 Aug 2013 20:09
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I will third your proposal after CC seconds it.
Fred1new
- 29 Aug 2013 20:10
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Cynic,
"here was someone intelligent and non-partisan who had something sensible to say"
Because you agree with him, or he agrees with you.
Hays,
Are you still a member of the public, or do you float above it.
doodlebug4
- 29 Aug 2013 20:11
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Fred - LOL ! I'm a member of the public, so I'm obviously stupid.
dreamcatcher
- 29 Aug 2013 20:15
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mnamreh
- 29 Aug 2013 20:22
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cynic
- 29 Aug 2013 20:29
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neither one nor the other actually fred as i am not entrenched in a view as to the "correct" course of action
hilary
- 29 Aug 2013 20:29
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mnamreh - 29 Aug 2013 20:22 - 28347 of 28347
dc
"Llock Cho"?
Second generation Welsh-Chinese?
Nah, just missing the 'bops'.
mnamreh
- 29 Aug 2013 20:31
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doodlebug4
- 29 Aug 2013 20:36
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cynic, so you don't have an opinion about a course of action, does that give you a right to disagree with anyone who has a definite view regarding a course of action? One of the great things about sitting on a fence and not having an opinion is that you can never be wrong.:-)