It is now time to switch to a new Money AM football blog as the world cup is now over and we all look to the future.....World cup 2010 is over, Bravo Espana, and Forlan, once again and bring on the new season !.....I never expected the last thread to be such a success...thanks all.... so this new one might go on for years without the need to edit the title...we shall see...

Heard it all now , Cardiff trying to get the Palace game made null and void.

Just when you thought our season couldn't become anymore of a joke !

Everton v Manchester United: David Moyes should prepare for a raw reception at Goodison Park

The hostility David Moyes will receive on Sunday dates back to the day he announced he was leaving Everton for Manchester United





Manchester United plan sweeping summer overhaul of squad as Moyes re-asserts his authority in face of plane protest

David Moyes will be returning to Goodison Park with Manchester United for the first time since leaving Everton Photo: PA








By Chris Bascombe

10:28AM BST 18 Apr 2014

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The only guarantee David Moyes can be sure of when he makes his return to Goodison Park on Sunday is, unlike last time, there will be no guard of honour.


Being Everton’s manager must seem a lifetime ago for Manchester United’s boss. The standing ovation greeting his farewell performance, universal approval for ten years of sterling service and a lap of the pitch as the Evertonians said thank you and good luck.


A year on from announcing he was replacing Sir Alex Ferguson, Moyes will feel trepidation where once there was only appreciation. At best his reception will be mixed when he leads United to his former home, and at worst there will be a repeat of the hostility he experienced when Everton won at Old Trafford last December.


“You’re getting sacked in the morning,” the visiting fans sang.


Moyes was genuinely hurt and bewildered by the venom, many attributing this to the fickleness of the fans’ enthusiasm to burn today what they loved yesterday.


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Whether such acrimony is judged unfair, it is slightly more nuanced than this. Although temporarily delayed when Moyes announced his departure, it was inevitable there would be a reaction eventually due to the unconventional manner of his exit.

To trace the origins of rancour from a section of Evertonians you need only recall the day Moyes confirmed he was heading to Old Trafford.

On the surface it seemed a classy and dignified way to leave a club, but others felt it was a damaging representation not of how admirably Moyes had performed at Goodison Park but how their club tolerated subservience to his long-term, personal ambition for too long.

Some felt Everton had been played, Moyes’s expired contract – meaning there would be no compensation package from ‘the world’s biggest club’ – just happened to coincide with Ferguson’s departure. That was either extremely fortunate or strategic timing depending on how conspiratorial your outlook. Either way, Everton seemed to be under obligation to be docile in the face of United’s succession plans.

It was unnerving even for those Evertonians with short memories, as if they had done their bit to prepare the apprentice for the big league, help pack his bags and then wave him down the road with a triumphant send-off and proud smile. Evertonians are entitled to think their club bigger than that.

When Ferguson moved to Manchester United in 1986, Everton were on the verge of securing their second league title in two years. The idea of one day meekly stepping aside when United pursued their players or manager was anathema.

Some wondered if Moyes should have been allowed to stay in charge for Everton’s remaining fixtures, chairman Bill Kenwright determining it was the tasteful, more sophisticated thing to do. Moyes was allowed to run down his contract, officially ending his duties on July 1. Bizarrely, he was able to ready his desk at United’s training ground, pictured at Carrington and holding meetings with his new club’s senior players while on the Everton payroll.

His backroom staff joined him following discussions about whether it would actually cost Everton money to end their contracts so they could join United.

No sooner was Moyes in place he was making it clear he’d like to sign two of his former club’s most prized assets, last summer's chase for Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini eventually taking the Belgian to Old Trafford. Regardless of how poor he has been, he was a different beast in Everton blue.

Then followed an incendiary statement.

“I know if I was the Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for Baines and Fellaini, I would have found it very difficult to keep them,” said Moyes.

“I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players.”

Moyes might have left two months earlier, but this patronising remark was the real moment of separation.

The comment brought into clearer focus divisions within Everton’s fanbase when he was manager.

On the whole it is felt Moyes achieved all that was possible given his resources, perennially stuck on the fringe of the top four because of lack of investment. Plenty of others felt this too simplistic. They said Moyes took Everton where their wage bill said they should be and tripped at key moments – primarily against the top four clubs – because he lacked the invention to go beyond grinding out results. There was sadness when Moyes left, but no dejection, many within the club invigorated by the fresh air.

Roberto Martinez’s more upbeat demeanour has transformed the mood. He might finish in a similar position to Moyes’ Everton teams, but he will have won more Premier League points in his first season than his predecessor ever managed, doing so with a more attractive brand of football.

“The school of science is back,” says the banner on the Gwladys St.


Moyes 2012-13





Martinez 2013-14


1.45
Goals per game
1.62

45.0
Shots on target %
48.4

416.2
Average passes per game
476.3

79.4
Pass completion %
83.4

12.9
Long pass %
12.2

26.0
Average crosses per game
23.1

1.05
Average goals conceded per game
1.0

446
Fouls
334



Moyes’s more rigid style was endured out of perceived necessity, the idea being you need cash to be creative, but now the question is asked if it really had to be so circumspect for so long?

Martinez has made people consider if rather than overachieve with limited funds in ten years at Goodison Park, the latter period of Moyes’s reign was preventing the club from evolving to the next level.

The truth, as ever, lies somewhere in between.

To describe Moyes’ Everton teams as merely ‘functional’ is a misrepresentation. He took over in vastly different circumstances to Martinez and it can not be ignored the current top four challenge is built on foundations the Scot left behind.

Tim Howard, Phil Jagielka, Sylvain Distin, Leighton Baines, Seamus Coleman and Kevin Mirallas were Moyes purchases.

John Stones, the elegant teenage centre-back who will be an England international sooner rather than later, was Moyes’ last signing, the £3 million he paid Barnsley the finest of leaving gifts. What Everton lost in compensation to United, they regain with the value of the assets he left behind.

Moyes earns his place in Everton history as the bridge between an era when the Merseysiders’ were fighting for Premier League survival to being firmly re-established in the top six with the potential to go higher.

As a Manchester United manager seeking the victory to deny Everton a Champions League place, he can and should expect a certain amount of resentment in the away dug-out.

When the game ends, he will deserve the same level of appreciation of 12 months ago as the coach who dedicated every working hour to driving Everton forward. It just might take a little longer, a bit more water passing under that bridge, before anyone is comfortable standing in line to demonstrate such gratitude again.

Happy Easter all !....anyway : cannot believe Chelsea being beaten at home...terrible... (I thought she was pregnant).....I never get it right now ....

You can't believe it - try supporting them !!!

12 games we've played before CL ties - and we've lost 6 of them, drawn 3 - terrible

and most peoples theory is that its the game after that you suffer

From My Seat: Man Utd (H)
By Ken Buckley 20/04/2014 Comments (2) jump
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Sunday soon came around after Wednesday and playing Man U at home certainly concentrated minds. The result v Palace was put down to manager error and the team as relayed by social media seemed to suggest lessons had been learned. All around L4, Blue was the colour and Moyes chants were the sound.

Our room of nonsense soon filled to overflowing as the atmosphere reflected the atmosphere every time we entertain the Mancs but this time with the added edge of our falling out with one David Moyes and that edge was cutting to say the least. Even before entering the ground I heard a new one to me. It went along the lines of ‘Stuck with Moyes Man Utd, Stuck with Moyes playing football in a negative way’

Every now and then we pick up little gems in our very own theatre of dreams and the fella who is mates with one of our mainphysio’s said all the lads were fit and raring to go and very upbeat. Scepticism is also our middle name after years of tips and tall tales but today the display certainly backed his statement up. It was bedlam as fans left for the ground and the walk up was a treat for those of a musical disposition. Goodison Road was chocca and you could not tell who was queuing at outlets and who was making their way to turnstiles. Groups of fans marched singing anti-Moyes songs whilst heading for the street end. It reminded me of how this club really need some success so that again we can see these scenes as common place as we did in those glorious sixties and eighties.

Into the ground and from the first bar of Z-Cars the ‘Goodison Roar’ was heard and set the scene for the rest of the afternoon. Don’t know who won the toss but we were attacking the Park End. The way Man U started belied the fact that by the end the Blues would have a relatively easy win to celebrate and Moyes’s rough ride from the off would get no better as soon it became clear Martinez had a game plan that could have been garnered from some of our defeats rather than successes as we were happy to allow Utd the ball but only up to a point and then we funnelled, pounced and broke up their play and countered quickly.

From the antics of Moyes and Neville from time to time racing out to bawl instructions from the technical area they too had noticed. Martinez meanwhile ignored such antics and stood imperious resplendent in brown shoes as overseer in chief as his charges, although behind on possession, were by far the more dangerous side and this was demonstrated when a Lukaku knockdown found the ever willing Naismith with the whole goal to shoot at but he rather hurried the shot and the ball found row N in the Park End.

It was a great atmosphere but only to a point as the fans although boisterous and loud seemed to be waiting for us to get our noses in front before really letting rip. We came close when a Naismith shot hit a Utd defender in the box and an appeal from our players and an almighty ‘Hand Ball’ cry from the terraces left our Ref Clattenberg to wave such appeals away.

As the half hour mark approached the possession and pretty play from Utd was easy on the eye until 20yds from goal then our Rottweiler middle line and defenders rendered them impotent. Then on the half hour another good joined up break got Lukaku in and his goal-bound shot was clearly handled and even as reluctant as all refs are in giving pens Clattenberg really had no choice. Up stepped Baines and all the delaying tactics were redundant as our ace penalty taker strode forth waited for the keeper to guess and go and hit it down the middle. 1-0 thank you very much and the Blue army celebrated in some style all around the ground.

Fifteen minutes to the break and the last thing we wanted was to leak one and bring them back into the game. It could be argued that Utd went for us and players had to be vigilant and fans patient as we mopped up their efforts and continued to break at pace and unsettle their rearguard. Although they attacked I always felt we were in control of that and indeed welcomed them coming forward so that we could hit hard and fast the other way.

From such a scenario just two minutes shy of the break the ever dangerous Coleman was involved as he sped past defenders, found Mirallas who was also having a good game and he cut in from the right and hit one just inside the far post leaving De Gea beaten. The joy was unbridled and Moyes was not seen until the half time whistle went.

H/T and everyone upbeat yet in many a conversation the match v Palace was brought up in a sort of ‘What If’ way

The players appeared for second half along with the fourth official with his electronic board to announce that Distin had been replaced by Alcaraz. Many a ‘Phew’ was heard as Distin had played well and his pace was always welcome as well as Utd still had the speedy Welbeck to enter the fray if they so wished. We need not have worried as we seemed to sense we had the measure of the team of ‘The chosen one’ as long as we stayed focused. To this end many a player shone and none more than McCarthy with his non- stop running and aggressive fights for the ball one of which saw the ‘Croxteth kid’ give him a kick that needed lengthy attention, no free kick though, so on we went with Coleman scaring the hell out of them with his pacey bursts and link ups with Mirallas who was definitely having one of his very good games.

Such was the occasion the time was racing by and all looking good for the Blues with Howard rarely troubled if at all and the swift breaks looking goal-worthy with every sortie forward. Naismith almost made it a perfect 4-0 when first from a great run from Coleman and an intelligent cross from Mirallas saw him fire over as he raced in. Then not long after he made room for himself and from the edge of the box curled one to the far post with pace that De Gea did well to push for a corner from a fine diving save.

On 70 minutes Barkley, who had got through a tremendous amount of work without being eye-catching but invaluable to the team, was replaced by Osman. He gave us an injection of craft and guile and experience yet it was he who gave the underworked Howard a job to do late on when his pass back to Baines was woefully short, a bit like that cock up with Howard that saw Sunderland beat us on Boxing day. Him conceding possession saw Rooney played in and Howard did well to react with speed and block at Rooney’s feet and away for a corner which was wasted.

We cheered that. In fact we would cheer anything at that moment. That was the end of their pathetic efforts for today and the clock ticked down and on the 90. 4 more were added. More of the same and we ended the match in cruise control. It may well be recorded that Utd had the lion’s share of possession but it was Everton who had the tactics and the will to see them through that led to a pretty straight-forward victory that in some ways reminded me of the Ali rope-a-dope fights. We sucked them in, saw them off and hit them hard.

Beating Utd has happened before and with some back to the walls and a little luck descriptions but this season beating them home and away and to nil (Agg. Score 3-0) should fend off any hard luck stories from even the most biased of onlookers.

For those interested in such things many an anthem was sung out including ‘you’re getting sacked in the morning’ and all with venomous conviction. There was no need to sing ‘You’re not singing any more’ to the Mancs as they had already left or were sulking.

M.O.tM. – So many to choose but for me it was McCarthy, only just, but I will stick with it.

The walk back for the inquest was all light-hearted and jolly yet a definite undercurrent of ‘That bloody Palace result’ but hey we are still one point behind the Gunners and this is football which is almost unpredictable so you just never know and doesn’t that result today almost seal our passage to one Euro competition. Let’s just get as many points as we can and the league table will tell us how well we have done over 38 games.

This will be as good a season we have had for many a year and should be celebrated as such. Yet, it could turn out to be a most disappointing one after threatening so much so let’s hope for three more wins and then hope even harder—you never know.

Southampton next and with all personnel fit let’s hope our manager is as cute as he was today with the tactics.

UP THE BLUES

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Mike Gaynes
824 Posted 20/04/2014 at 23:07:25 No game is complete without Ken's literary account. The perfect end to a victorious day.
Patrick Murphy
832 Posted 20/04/2014 at 23:45:20 Nice report once again Ken and I believe with the proper investment in the Summer we could do as well again next season. But no reflection on your report by the way I am getting mightily sick of the BBC et al pointing out how all our better players are players that David Moyes bought to the club, wasn't that what we paid the guy so much money to do? Or was the dour one doing us a favour by being here for so long?
I also read a report or blog in one of the newspapers where Ian Ross was supposed to have slagged OFM by stating that he rejected a list of players who according to Ross would have made quite a team.

Bill Kenwright this is your last chance mate - give Roberto the necessary funding so that he can add to the squad, if you can't then get out of the way as we now have a team and a manager who understand what the fans want and we want more of the same next season.

Moyes hours/days numbered according to Sky Sports rumours.

No NO Noooooooooo!!! Moyes is doing a fabulous job. He must stay! :O)

Howard: Treatment of Moyes was unfair
21/04/2014 Comments (25) jump
Tim Howard has come to the defence of David Moyes after the former Everton manager was barracked by joyous Everton fans during Sunday's victory over Manchester United at Goodison Park.
Moyes's emergence from the tunnel prior to the match was met with boos from some Evertonians in response to the manner of his pursuit of Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines last summer and was the subject of mocking chants – presciently, they included an obligatory rendition of "sacked in the morning" – by the end as Everton ran out convincing 2-0 victors.

Howard, who was signed by Moyes in 2006, has labeled the treatment of his former manager as "unfair", though, citing the stability that the Scot brought to Goodison and his own experiences playing under him for seven years.

“That is unfair on him,” Howard said. “We have brilliant fans, but it's unfair. He was the second coming, the messiah 12 months ago, and I don't think as Evertonians we should ever forget that.

“He wouldn't want me feeling sorry for him. I love David Moyes. I think he is a brilliant manager. He was [a brilliant manager] here for us and I will be forever grateful.”

The American was pleased with the Blues' win, though, saying: “It was a good performance, another performance like the one against Arsenal. We got the goals and the clean sheet and we played it well from the back. I thought we did well.

“We had to absorb their pressure. They had a lot of possession. They have a lot of talented players. They over loaded the middle of the pitch and made it tough to get the ball off them but we were resilient and we adapted. We hit them on the counter. That is what the game called for.”

Quotes sourced from ESPN FC

Moves afoot at Man Utd?
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John Keating
018 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:45:41 No sympathy from me at all. Howard should keep his trap shut !
Patrick Murphy
020 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:49:36 Agreed John, seeing as Tim has just signed an extension to his contract his loyalty is to Everton FC and its supporters and not to his former boss; However, he is entitled to his own opinion.
Wayne Smyth
023 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:50:37 As an aside, anyone think Coleman would make a better captain than Howard?
The guy is non-stop, all action, superb commitment from first minute to last. He is also one of our most gifted players in terms of ability. He does give the other players a rollocking too sometimes.

He may not have the footballing background, but his overall contribution is one that any of our players should look up to. I think to be a captain you need to have ability and your work-ethic needs to be top drawer. Someone who keeps going in all circumstances to set the standard. I think Coleman fits the bill perfectly.

John Keating
026 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:57:30 Patrick I agree that Howard is entitled to his opinion but he has the luxury of mouthing off to the press/media which we don't.
If he is such a brilliant passionate Evertonian why didn't he further mention that he could understand some supporters being pissed off at Moyes for all the lies he gave us from the start of last season, never mind from Christmas on.

And the crap regarding Baines and Fellaini – short memory from the Lescott saga !

Yes let Tim Howard have his opinion but let him not try to rewrite history.

Steve Brown
032 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:16:05 So John 026, basically you're saying Howad can have his own opinion as long as it doesn't upset you or clash with how you see the past?
Steve Brown
034 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:19:53 It's a free country, Howard can say what he likes.
Darryl Ritchie
041 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:32:50 The way Timmy, and the players, see the sport, and the way we, the fans, do, is completely different. For them it's a business, a paycheque. For us it's a religion.
Phil Sammon
042 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:25:52 If I had my way Tim Howard would be booed from now on. What a completely stupid comment from the man.
This was never about forgetting what Moyes did for us. We gave him the benefit of the doubt with regards to his contract stalling and the deal with Man Utd. We applauded and thanked him for his services at his final home game. We also paid the man a fortune...so I think we held up our end of the bargain, Tim.

If Moyes had have come back this year as Man Utd manager without the Baines/Fellaini saga then he would have been applauded again. I even believe he could have signed Fellaini AND Baines AND still have been afforded a grand reception had he gone about it in the right and proper way. All this crap about 'Everton don't sell cheap' then 12 months later he's low-balling us and telling our new boss how he should run the club. It was disgraceful and he deserves every bit of abuse he gets.

If we had a reserve goalkeeper who could catch a football then I'd advocate putting him in.

Ray Roche
048 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:47:05 Phil, booing Howard? As ridiculous as anything I've read on these pages. You're not young Ross in a wig are you? (Not Barkley, Edwards.)
Phil Sammon
050 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:55:37 Ray 048
Ha, no I'm not. I'm not serious about booing him either. I just think he's talking crap.

Robin Cannon
058 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:15:35 I think "Tim Howard has come out with a passionate defence..." isn't really accurate. I doubt very much he just called up the press out of the blue.
It's just a player trying to be diplomatic when he's being quizzed on something he probably doesn't want to answer.

Chris Stubbs
063 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:13:09 I have no sympathy for Moyes. It looks like he is going to be sacked anyway. What gets me annoyed is the noise made about the number of our current players (Howard included) who were signed by Moyes and the fact that Martinez is benefitting from the Moyes legacy. It is true that Martinez inherited a good group of players, but he has added to it most effectively and has nurtured the raw talents of Barkley, Stones and Coleman.
Moyes inherited a title winning squad and seems to have alienated the players. This reminds me of when Brian Clough did the same when he became Leeds manager after Don Revie.

Cloughie bounced back after that. Moyes may find it difficult to do the same.

Mike Oates
064 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:28:04 Hey lets grow up and move on. Moyes did a lot for this club and after 14-15 years of going nowhere he got us going again. He moved on to another club which at the time was light years ahead of us in all areas, board, finances, on the field success etc. He made a stupid low ball offer (maybe it was new CEO Woodward trying to prove a point ?) which we rightly said was derisory. End of, Martinez has come in and has demonstrated that there is another way and it looks like the UTD job is too big for Moyes . But anyone would think he has slated Everton repeatedly but he hasn't. Grow up its a game of amateur spectators and professional players and management trying to do what's right for them.
Tony J Williams
070 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:02 Moyes probably saved his career so why wouldn't he defend him?
Howard isn't a fan like us and doesn't have the illogical madness that comes with being an Evertonian, so he sees Moyes as an ex boss that did the best by him.

Not arsed either way, he is the past, we look forward...with Ross in attack, the school of science is on it's way back
Gary Leonard
071 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:14 This is my take on this story. Firstly, let's not criticise Tim. He has been great this year. I agree that the players have a different perspective to the fans. I think that what needs to be borne in mind is that the fans feel betrayed by Moyes. The betrayal started with his prevarication over the renewal of his contract throughout the 2012-13 season, which seemed to unsettle the players. It later transpired that he had been negotiating with Man Utd over the manager's job since December 2012. Then he started working for Man Utd, including apparently persuading Rooney to stay, even though he was till contracted to Everton. He then left, taking most of his backroom team with him and, despite a supposed 'gentleman's agreement' with Bill Kenwright not to poach any Everton players, he tried to buy Fellaini and Baines on the cheap (a ploy that backfired!). He did a great job for Everton while he was with us, but this is why we resent him now and why doing the double over Man Utd this season has been so satisfying. And Roberto has been an even greater replacement. I confess that I was hoping that Duncan would be appointed manager. This year has exceeded all expectations. And - to be fair to Moyes, Utd's team had been run down over the last few years and I think that the Glazers were hoping that Moyes would rebuild it on the cheap.
Ray Roche
072 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:41:49 Phil Sammon @050
Fair enough Ross, sorry, Phil, but if you think HE'S talking crap spend a day on here...

Dave Williams
076 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:41:05 I don't blame Moyes if he negotiated behind our backs for the MU job. It is a cut throat business with very little loyalty either way as he will most likely realise soon when he gets the sack!
He was very foolish in what he said about Fellaini and Baines and how we should sell to further their careers but how stupid does he look now having been screwed for £27.5m for Fellaini who is looking a total waste of money and it may be that deal which contributes to his demise - how ironic!
Ultimately it is a game of boos and cheers,heroes and villains and I am sure Moyes doesn't lose any sleep over it. Tim should however butt out and leave the boo boys to it if that's what they want to do. Tim should concern himself with what happens at Goodison Park and let Moyes look after himself. I will be forever grateful for the marvellous job he did for our club and also for him leaving when he did as Roberto has moved us on in a way that DM never could.
Jay Harris
079 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:45:27 Gary
totally agree but just to add Moyes also seriously undermined EFC when he stated that "we should let Baines and Fellaini go to a bigger club to further their careers".
That was a disgraceful swipe at a club and supporters that had supported him through thick and thin and followed on from his own stance regarding Lescott.

Thankfully that has now come back to haunt him and I for one am gratified for it.

I fully understand Tim Howard's stance in not wanting the man kicked when he is down and that loyalty should be commended but as supporters we should have expected much better from Moyes due to the adulation and support he enjoyed before he jumped ship.

Mark Dunford
080 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:24 Agree with Mike (64). Judging by the many reports, it looks like Moyes has been sacked today. I can't help but feel sorry for him as he was a good servant to Everton (sorry, but I find it hard to gloat) and I guess this is really what Howard is expressing - it seems a natural reaction from Howard given that Moyes rescued his career and did a lot for many of the players at Goodison now (from Osman through to Stones). I guess it was probably rumoured yesterday so Howard may have had an inkling before the media put the story in full flow.
Moyes had a dreadful inheritance, but he appeared overwhelmed by it all the same, their team is now poorer than it should be and dreadfully ill balanced (too many number 10s, no decent midfield and poor defence - this wasn't a problem for him at Goodison and most of the bad players were there when he arrived). It was the failure in the transfer market in Summer and Jan that did for him - two marquee signings and nothing to rebalance the team. On the plus side, the goalie is better than he was last year!

Moyes needlessly lost friends through his ill thought out pursuit of Baines (who must be a mightily relieved man - he only needs to look at Fellaini or Buttner to see what might have been). A rather sad end to Moyes career (assuming it is true!).

John Daley
082 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:53:48 "He was the second coming, the messiah 12 months ago"
Shit! Howard must have been in such a dark place this time last year if he spent all his spare time scouring the internet for tips on farcical fucking facial hair and studying the posts of our very own Nick Entwistle.

Wonder what other shameful bollocks lies hidden within his browsing history?

As for the reception Moyes was given being 'unfair'? I thought he actually got off lightly yesterday.
Kevin Tully
083 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:44:03

Taken 50/1 on the draw for the Baggies. Well we are only 3-1 down and the second half to come.

I know I know but hey what the hell

Blimey Martini, not sure if that bet is brave or insanity, fine line between the two suppose :O)

I should have got 25/1 for drawing the second half! I was robbed.

I think my next bet will be on Moyes keeping his job. Can't be wrong twice can I?

Chuck it on Cardiff staying up , we're gonna beat Sunderland away Saturday then draw away at Newcastle the following week then get at least a point against Chelsea last game of season.

Sunderland . Fulham and Norwich (sorry Harrycat) are going down.

David Moyes: Manchester United manager sacked by club

Manchester United manager David Moyes has been sacked, only 10 months after succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford.

The club had previously refused to comment on national newspaper reports on Monday that Moyes would be dismissed before the end of the season.

Moyes, 50, was chosen by Ferguson as the man to succeed him when he retired after 26 years in charge last summer.

Moyes left Everton to sign a six-year deal with the Premier League champions.

More to follow.

He was useless.

Malky for Man U .... he's even worse :-)

Grim Reaper .... Ironic, job done at Goodison :O) Newcastle next stop for Moyes?

Zaha's gonna be gutted , he was banging his daughter apparently.

Yeah right ....