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Howard: Treatment of Moyes was unfair
21/04/2014 Comments (25) jump
Tim Howard has come to the defence of David Moyes after the former Everton manager was barracked by joyous Everton fans during Sunday's victory over Manchester United at Goodison Park.
Moyes's emergence from the tunnel prior to the match was met with boos from some Evertonians in response to the manner of his pursuit of Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines last summer and was the subject of mocking chants – presciently, they included an obligatory rendition of "sacked in the morning" – by the end as Everton ran out convincing 2-0 victors.

Howard, who was signed by Moyes in 2006, has labeled the treatment of his former manager as "unfair", though, citing the stability that the Scot brought to Goodison and his own experiences playing under him for seven years.

“That is unfair on him,” Howard said. “We have brilliant fans, but it's unfair. He was the second coming, the messiah 12 months ago, and I don't think as Evertonians we should ever forget that.

“He wouldn't want me feeling sorry for him. I love David Moyes. I think he is a brilliant manager. He was [a brilliant manager] here for us and I will be forever grateful.”

The American was pleased with the Blues' win, though, saying: “It was a good performance, another performance like the one against Arsenal. We got the goals and the clean sheet and we played it well from the back. I thought we did well.

“We had to absorb their pressure. They had a lot of possession. They have a lot of talented players. They over loaded the middle of the pitch and made it tough to get the ball off them but we were resilient and we adapted. We hit them on the counter. That is what the game called for.”

Quotes sourced from ESPN FC

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John Keating
018 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:45:41 No sympathy from me at all. Howard should keep his trap shut !
Patrick Murphy
020 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:49:36 Agreed John, seeing as Tim has just signed an extension to his contract his loyalty is to Everton FC and its supporters and not to his former boss; However, he is entitled to his own opinion.
Wayne Smyth
023 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:50:37 As an aside, anyone think Coleman would make a better captain than Howard?
The guy is non-stop, all action, superb commitment from first minute to last. He is also one of our most gifted players in terms of ability. He does give the other players a rollocking too sometimes.

He may not have the footballing background, but his overall contribution is one that any of our players should look up to. I think to be a captain you need to have ability and your work-ethic needs to be top drawer. Someone who keeps going in all circumstances to set the standard. I think Coleman fits the bill perfectly.

John Keating
026 Posted 21/04/2014 at 15:57:30 Patrick I agree that Howard is entitled to his opinion but he has the luxury of mouthing off to the press/media which we don't.
If he is such a brilliant passionate Evertonian why didn't he further mention that he could understand some supporters being pissed off at Moyes for all the lies he gave us from the start of last season, never mind from Christmas on.

And the crap regarding Baines and Fellaini – short memory from the Lescott saga !

Yes let Tim Howard have his opinion but let him not try to rewrite history.

Steve Brown
032 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:16:05 So John 026, basically you're saying Howad can have his own opinion as long as it doesn't upset you or clash with how you see the past?
Steve Brown
034 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:19:53 It's a free country, Howard can say what he likes.
Darryl Ritchie
041 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:32:50 The way Timmy, and the players, see the sport, and the way we, the fans, do, is completely different. For them it's a business, a paycheque. For us it's a religion.
Phil Sammon
042 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:25:52 If I had my way Tim Howard would be booed from now on. What a completely stupid comment from the man.
This was never about forgetting what Moyes did for us. We gave him the benefit of the doubt with regards to his contract stalling and the deal with Man Utd. We applauded and thanked him for his services at his final home game. We also paid the man a fortune...so I think we held up our end of the bargain, Tim.

If Moyes had have come back this year as Man Utd manager without the Baines/Fellaini saga then he would have been applauded again. I even believe he could have signed Fellaini AND Baines AND still have been afforded a grand reception had he gone about it in the right and proper way. All this crap about 'Everton don't sell cheap' then 12 months later he's low-balling us and telling our new boss how he should run the club. It was disgraceful and he deserves every bit of abuse he gets.

If we had a reserve goalkeeper who could catch a football then I'd advocate putting him in.

Ray Roche
048 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:47:05 Phil, booing Howard? As ridiculous as anything I've read on these pages. You're not young Ross in a wig are you? (Not Barkley, Edwards.)
Phil Sammon
050 Posted 21/04/2014 at 16:55:37 Ray 048
Ha, no I'm not. I'm not serious about booing him either. I just think he's talking crap.

Robin Cannon
058 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:15:35 I think "Tim Howard has come out with a passionate defence..." isn't really accurate. I doubt very much he just called up the press out of the blue.
It's just a player trying to be diplomatic when he's being quizzed on something he probably doesn't want to answer.

Chris Stubbs
063 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:13:09 I have no sympathy for Moyes. It looks like he is going to be sacked anyway. What gets me annoyed is the noise made about the number of our current players (Howard included) who were signed by Moyes and the fact that Martinez is benefitting from the Moyes legacy. It is true that Martinez inherited a good group of players, but he has added to it most effectively and has nurtured the raw talents of Barkley, Stones and Coleman.
Moyes inherited a title winning squad and seems to have alienated the players. This reminds me of when Brian Clough did the same when he became Leeds manager after Don Revie.

Cloughie bounced back after that. Moyes may find it difficult to do the same.

Mike Oates
064 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:28:04 Hey lets grow up and move on. Moyes did a lot for this club and after 14-15 years of going nowhere he got us going again. He moved on to another club which at the time was light years ahead of us in all areas, board, finances, on the field success etc. He made a stupid low ball offer (maybe it was new CEO Woodward trying to prove a point ?) which we rightly said was derisory. End of, Martinez has come in and has demonstrated that there is another way and it looks like the UTD job is too big for Moyes . But anyone would think he has slated Everton repeatedly but he hasn't. Grow up its a game of amateur spectators and professional players and management trying to do what's right for them.
Tony J Williams
070 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:02 Moyes probably saved his career so why wouldn't he defend him?
Howard isn't a fan like us and doesn't have the illogical madness that comes with being an Evertonian, so he sees Moyes as an ex boss that did the best by him.

Not arsed either way, he is the past, we look forward...with Ross in attack, the school of science is on it's way back
Gary Leonard
071 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:14 This is my take on this story. Firstly, let's not criticise Tim. He has been great this year. I agree that the players have a different perspective to the fans. I think that what needs to be borne in mind is that the fans feel betrayed by Moyes. The betrayal started with his prevarication over the renewal of his contract throughout the 2012-13 season, which seemed to unsettle the players. It later transpired that he had been negotiating with Man Utd over the manager's job since December 2012. Then he started working for Man Utd, including apparently persuading Rooney to stay, even though he was till contracted to Everton. He then left, taking most of his backroom team with him and, despite a supposed 'gentleman's agreement' with Bill Kenwright not to poach any Everton players, he tried to buy Fellaini and Baines on the cheap (a ploy that backfired!). He did a great job for Everton while he was with us, but this is why we resent him now and why doing the double over Man Utd this season has been so satisfying. And Roberto has been an even greater replacement. I confess that I was hoping that Duncan would be appointed manager. This year has exceeded all expectations. And - to be fair to Moyes, Utd's team had been run down over the last few years and I think that the Glazers were hoping that Moyes would rebuild it on the cheap.
Ray Roche
072 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:41:49 Phil Sammon @050
Fair enough Ross, sorry, Phil, but if you think HE'S talking crap spend a day on here...

Dave Williams
076 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:41:05 I don't blame Moyes if he negotiated behind our backs for the MU job. It is a cut throat business with very little loyalty either way as he will most likely realise soon when he gets the sack!
He was very foolish in what he said about Fellaini and Baines and how we should sell to further their careers but how stupid does he look now having been screwed for £27.5m for Fellaini who is looking a total waste of money and it may be that deal which contributes to his demise - how ironic!
Ultimately it is a game of boos and cheers,heroes and villains and I am sure Moyes doesn't lose any sleep over it. Tim should however butt out and leave the boo boys to it if that's what they want to do. Tim should concern himself with what happens at Goodison Park and let Moyes look after himself. I will be forever grateful for the marvellous job he did for our club and also for him leaving when he did as Roberto has moved us on in a way that DM never could.
Jay Harris
079 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:45:27 Gary
totally agree but just to add Moyes also seriously undermined EFC when he stated that "we should let Baines and Fellaini go to a bigger club to further their careers".
That was a disgraceful swipe at a club and supporters that had supported him through thick and thin and followed on from his own stance regarding Lescott.

Thankfully that has now come back to haunt him and I for one am gratified for it.

I fully understand Tim Howard's stance in not wanting the man kicked when he is down and that loyalty should be commended but as supporters we should have expected much better from Moyes due to the adulation and support he enjoyed before he jumped ship.

Mark Dunford
080 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:36:24 Agree with Mike (64). Judging by the many reports, it looks like Moyes has been sacked today. I can't help but feel sorry for him as he was a good servant to Everton (sorry, but I find it hard to gloat) and I guess this is really what Howard is expressing - it seems a natural reaction from Howard given that Moyes rescued his career and did a lot for many of the players at Goodison now (from Osman through to Stones). I guess it was probably rumoured yesterday so Howard may have had an inkling before the media put the story in full flow.
Moyes had a dreadful inheritance, but he appeared overwhelmed by it all the same, their team is now poorer than it should be and dreadfully ill balanced (too many number 10s, no decent midfield and poor defence - this wasn't a problem for him at Goodison and most of the bad players were there when he arrived). It was the failure in the transfer market in Summer and Jan that did for him - two marquee signings and nothing to rebalance the team. On the plus side, the goalie is better than he was last year!

Moyes needlessly lost friends through his ill thought out pursuit of Baines (who must be a mightily relieved man - he only needs to look at Fellaini or Buttner to see what might have been). A rather sad end to Moyes career (assuming it is true!).

John Daley
082 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:53:48 "He was the second coming, the messiah 12 months ago"
Shit! Howard must have been in such a dark place this time last year if he spent all his spare time scouring the internet for tips on farcical fucking facial hair and studying the posts of our very own Nick Entwistle.

Wonder what other shameful bollocks lies hidden within his browsing history?

As for the reception Moyes was given being 'unfair'? I thought he actually got off lightly yesterday.
Kevin Tully
083 Posted 21/04/2014 at 17:44:03

Taken 50/1 on the draw for the Baggies. Well we are only 3-1 down and the second half to come.

I know I know but hey what the hell

Blimey Martini, not sure if that bet is brave or insanity, fine line between the two suppose :O)

I should have got 25/1 for drawing the second half! I was robbed.

I think my next bet will be on Moyes keeping his job. Can't be wrong twice can I?

Chuck it on Cardiff staying up , we're gonna beat Sunderland away Saturday then draw away at Newcastle the following week then get at least a point against Chelsea last game of season.

Sunderland . Fulham and Norwich (sorry Harrycat) are going down.

David Moyes: Manchester United manager sacked by club

Manchester United manager David Moyes has been sacked, only 10 months after succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford.

The club had previously refused to comment on national newspaper reports on Monday that Moyes would be dismissed before the end of the season.

Moyes, 50, was chosen by Ferguson as the man to succeed him when he retired after 26 years in charge last summer.

Moyes left Everton to sign a six-year deal with the Premier League champions.

More to follow.

He was useless.

Malky for Man U .... he's even worse :-)

Grim Reaper .... Ironic, job done at Goodison :O) Newcastle next stop for Moyes?

Zaha's gonna be gutted , he was banging his daughter apparently.

Yeah right ....

No sympathy, poisoned chalice following old red nose. His career choice. Sir Alex did EFC massive favour, if it had been up to our chairman (Betty Turpins son) Moyes would have had a job for life at Goodison.

£6 million squid for ten months of disaster, plus pay off, cheer up Davy Moyes how bad can it be for a shit football manager destroying a Championship winning team?

Hey GF .... Your cue, Gigsy is our leader, Gigsy is our leader :O) Next.

This is the reason he was sacked.

At least Man U will fare better playing away under Giggs.

lol Hilary

Insult to injury?

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