Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

LOL db just a minor detail for the likes of the left wing nutters aka Fred The Red and Smelly Finger!

DB.

Maybe.

But 2 years behind what it possibly could have been.

And there may still be a brick wall.

People shouldnt ever confuse economic growth with polital standing/debate.

When labour left power growth was at 2.5%.

Camoron couldnt produce an outright win against the weakest PM this country as ever known. Now thats hes moraly wounded (self inflicted) hes at his weakest ever.

Their is rumour on Twitter this evening that John Redwood is to meet with 5 other prominent Tory back benchers including Bill Cash and Nadine Dorres Jesse Norman and Andrew Tyrie over the weekend re- to a leadership bid.

As and when it develops Ill update.

ps, Chris so sad to see you stooping down to the childish Hilary levels.

The more you read various comments coming out of the USA the more you appreciate just how important it is for the UK not to get involved in this political game. The debate about Syria has got absolutely nothing to do with humanitarian issues, it is all about the USA manipulating the UK for it's own political agenda.

"In brief remarks at the White House Barack Obama said Assad's use of chemical weapons threatened US interests and endangered its allies such as Israel and Jordan."

When Cameroon took over the leadership of the tory party, they had 300k members, it is now below 100k.

Some record!

Both figures are wrong. It was 200,000 plus and is now around 120,000.

Labour has around 180,000 but many are signed up through their union membership.

You might be right, no one seems to know.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-party-membership-collapsed-under-2142345

Not as big a fall as the Labour party that had over 400,000 when Blair became leader in 1997.

Hays,

Citing the failures of another, does not mean that your supreme leader isn't a disaster.

Many thought that Blair was a torrid mole.


Sorry tory mole.

Membership of political parties is falling in almost every country. It has nothing to do with the specific leader.

You think not?

You ought to get out more!

Cameroon is a disaster, I don't know anyone who is prepared to vote for him.

Cameron is fine. I will be voting for him. The Conservatives are only 3 or 4 points behind Labour and Cameron's approval rating is far higher than Miliband's.

http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2013/05/06/decline-in-party-membership-europe-ingrid-van-biezen/

Latest UNS Projection.......... today 30/08/2013

Uniform Swing Projection

236 363 25 8 18


Labour Majority 76

Latest polls, and what might the impact of Syria be.........


Perhaps of more interest will be the effect on perceptions of the party leaders (which, in turn, may have their own knock on effects on voting intention) – will it make people see David Cameron as a less effective leader, or Ed Miliband as a more effective one? I would be surprised if there wasn’t at least some negative impact on Cameron’s ratings, but whether that is long term or quickly forgotten is an open question…

That's based on averages as at 22 August. Out of date.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

Hays,

The blue blood of the party is beginning to flow.

Hear Aschroft has called in Cameron for a talk.

On the serious side, I think, if the clown had prepared his case and timed it properly the decision in parliament would have been passed.

And Britain would have been involved in any action in Syria.

What that action should be should have be is to remove Assad and "try" to form an inclusive replacement government.

How????

But I think, many of the public dislikes the dishonesty and hypocrisy of doing this wrapped around the "speak" of Chemical Weapons and broken international "rules".

Yes tend to agree Fred but lets not lose sight of the facts here.

Its Camorons own bank benchers who dislike him that brought him down on Thursday night.

If they had voted for Millies ammendment we would probably be having a vote tomorrow and voting for military action.

Too many now in the Conservative party dont trust him, know he lies and know he distorts facts to his own advantage.

They also beleive he had a seperate agenda that of wanting to become a world wide statesman, Im afraid that opportunity has now gone forever.