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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

MaxK - 01 Sep 2013 12:33 - 28589 of 81564

David Cameron is a vainglorious fantasist. He should quit

By Peter Hitchens

PUBLISHED: 00:01, 1 September 2013 | UPDATED: 00:01, 1 September 2013



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2408071/PETER-HITCHENS-David-Cameron-vainglorious-fantasist-He-quit.html#ixzz2ddOII6Ou

Haystack - 01 Sep 2013 12:51 - 28590 of 81564

You should avoid the Daily Mail and particularly Peter Hitchens. They will both destroy your brain cells.

Fred1new - 01 Sep 2013 15:21 - 28591 of 81564

Since when do any members of the the tory party faithful use brains.

Besides what Camoron and Porky have could fit into a 2p whistle and they would still leave space.

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He and his followers (the old boys of the Bullingdon Club High Ball Club) blew the Syrian presentation to Parliament, because they were to conceited to listen to advice and considered the consequences of their actions.

Cameron then blew his position as a Prime minister in another moment of pique and probably makes it impossible to recover his position by responding without thinking the consequence of his response.

His actions and responses are that of a stunted, immature PM with poor judgement.


He wanted to be seen as a world leader, and push the USA into an unplanned war for political benefit.

Similar to Bush.

He will go down in history as a fool.

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Interesting to see a bunch of tory idiots suggesting that they could push another proposal through parliament, much on the lines the Labour, tory dissenters, some Libs, UKIP and seemingly the country would accept.


That would make Cameron's position untenable.

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Nightmare,

When you chuck hypocrisy around, have a look at your own statements.

goldfinger - 01 Sep 2013 15:49 - 28592 of 81564

Absolutely Fred.

Anyone with their head screwed on know this was Camoron at his arogant best, and hes blown it, blow it so much hes thrown away his long term career.

Bill aka Haystack knows this but as usual the total ignoramous.

The other Tory boys here know what a bollox up hes made. (Chris and Doodle Pip).

But at least they have been brave enough to admit the truth and I give them respect for that.

goldfinger - 01 Sep 2013 16:04 - 28593 of 81564

YOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

choke on this BILL aka Haystack..............

electionista‏@electionista
UK - YouGov/Sunday Times poll: CON 31%, LAB 41%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 13%

Labour 10 point lead up from 4 point lead.

Fred1new - 01 Sep 2013 16:04 - 28594 of 81564

Lot of truth in the cartoon,

But the public considers Cameron and his U-Turn government even bigger liars.

If you think Cameron and Porky had a case, why with all their "intellectual" ability, schooling and cramming couldn't they present a plausible case to their own backbenchers, the government as a whole or the public.

He is a public failure.

Fred1new - 01 Sep 2013 16:05 - 28595 of 81564

I suppose he is a little boy being dressed up as a man.

Tantrums dear boy, Tantrums.

Haystack - 01 Sep 2013 18:20 - 28597 of 81564

After the Syria vote, 36% think Cameron is doing a good job , 24% think Miliband is doing a good job.

39% think Cameron showed strong leadership skills over Syria and 28% think Ed Miliband showed strong leadership,

Once again its bad news for Miliband.

MaxK - 01 Sep 2013 19:32 - 28598 of 81564

Syria: was the UK parliament right to vote against intervention?


British MPs ruled out military intervention in Syria in a dramatic vote on Thursday night. Did they make the right decision?


88

12


Yes (88%)

No (12%)


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree

Haystack - 01 Sep 2013 19:32 - 28599 of 81564

Tony Blair - the former Prime Minister renewed his call for intervention, saying the Commons vote that defeated the government was "shocking".

In an article for the Sunday Times, he said: "Chemical weapons are used against innocent civilians, including children, and our response is apparently: best do nothing.

"So, America, with the support of France and the Arab League, will act. We will stay on the side-lines."

Haystack - 01 Sep 2013 21:53 - 28600 of 81564

http://news.sky.com/story/1135749/syria-assad-planned-gas-attack-last-summer

"Ed Miliband says there should be a diplomatic solution to the problem. You cannot be diplomatic with Assad. He is worse than Adolf Hitler.

"Hitler didn't use chemical weapons against his own people, he did not bomb his own towns and cities. Hitler is junior compared to Assad.

"But both of them are dictators, both of them are killers. Both of them bring agony and suffering to the people around them.

"The Labour party in particular will find themselves on the wrong side of history. How can they sit back and allow thousands of innocent Syrians to die.

"If there is no punishment, if you don’t stop him now, if he doesn’t see that there are serious consequences for killing people by chemical weapons he will use them again and again, over and over again.

"I believe that in the future the Syrian people will look at the people who fought in the British parliament and say you left us to be killed'"

MaxK - 01 Sep 2013 23:27 - 28601 of 81564

Yadda yadda....you have no idea who released the gas.

Why would Assad shit on his own doorstep?

Haystack - 01 Sep 2013 23:40 - 28602 of 81564

The Intel indicates heavily that it is Assad due to phone intercepts for one. The western powers knew he was using chemical weapons last December.

I think we may still end up involved in some way.

MaxK - 01 Sep 2013 23:51 - 28603 of 81564

And they waited 9 months to begin to do something?


Are you for real?

Haystack - 02 Sep 2013 00:09 - 28604 of 81564

The US knew in December that chemical weapons were used. They needed more evidence. The latest use was more blatent. If we do nothing then Assad will just continue. Read the whole Sky News article.

TANKER - 02 Sep 2013 07:58 - 28605 of 81564

Tony Blair the LIAR should be hung he is a murderer an evil vile man

TANKER - 02 Sep 2013 09:26 - 28606 of 81564

the USA run by a nobody with no balls .spineless and not a real president just a gimmick

TANKER - 02 Sep 2013 09:30 - 28607 of 81564

18 months till election and neither the con party or the labour party have a leader
listening to tory voters they are sick of CAMERON the simpleton .and will not vote for him

Haystack - 02 Sep 2013 09:59 - 28608 of 81564

It is not the job of politicians to listen to the public. They are there to govern and to do the right thing when circumstances dictate.
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