Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

I suppose he is a little boy being dressed up as a man.

Tantrums dear boy, Tantrums.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-31/unidentified-marine-sums-it-all

After the Syria vote, 36% think Cameron is doing a good job , 24% think Miliband is doing a good job.

39% think Cameron showed strong leadership skills over Syria and 28% think Ed Miliband showed strong leadership,

Once again its bad news for Miliband.

Syria: was the UK parliament right to vote against intervention?


British MPs ruled out military intervention in Syria in a dramatic vote on Thursday night. Did they make the right decision?


88

12


Yes (88%)

No (12%)


http://www.theguardian.com/uk/commentisfree

Tony Blair - the former Prime Minister renewed his call for intervention, saying the Commons vote that defeated the government was "shocking".

In an article for the Sunday Times, he said: "Chemical weapons are used against innocent civilians, including children, and our response is apparently: best do nothing.

"So, America, with the support of France and the Arab League, will act. We will stay on the side-lines."

http://news.sky.com/story/1135749/syria-assad-planned-gas-attack-last-summer

"Ed Miliband says there should be a diplomatic solution to the problem. You cannot be diplomatic with Assad. He is worse than Adolf Hitler.

"Hitler didn't use chemical weapons against his own people, he did not bomb his own towns and cities. Hitler is junior compared to Assad.

"But both of them are dictators, both of them are killers. Both of them bring agony and suffering to the people around them.

"The Labour party in particular will find themselves on the wrong side of history. How can they sit back and allow thousands of innocent Syrians to die.

"If there is no punishment, if you don’t stop him now, if he doesn’t see that there are serious consequences for killing people by chemical weapons he will use them again and again, over and over again.

"I believe that in the future the Syrian people will look at the people who fought in the British parliament and say you left us to be killed'"

Yadda yadda....you have no idea who released the gas.

Why would Assad shit on his own doorstep?

The Intel indicates heavily that it is Assad due to phone intercepts for one. The western powers knew he was using chemical weapons last December.

I think we may still end up involved in some way.

And they waited 9 months to begin to do something?


Are you for real?

The US knew in December that chemical weapons were used. They needed more evidence. The latest use was more blatent. If we do nothing then Assad will just continue. Read the whole Sky News article.

Tony Blair the LIAR should be hung he is a murderer an evil vile man

the USA run by a nobody with no balls .spineless and not a real president just a gimmick

18 months till election and neither the con party or the labour party have a leader
listening to tory voters they are sick of CAMERON the simpleton .and will not vote for him

It is not the job of politicians to listen to the public. They are there to govern and to do the right thing when circumstances dictate.

so why have the last governments allowed the uk to be raped by immigrants
bleeding the NHS schools benefits and services .

I despair of you Haystack, you have this incessant capacity of talking utter shite which leaves you wide open to obvious rebuke from left wing nutters.

"It is not the job of politicians to listen to the public"

Well excuse me , that is precisely the job of politicians to listen to the public. History proves it you complete knob. The Labour party are voted in because of that simple fact! They cock up the economy every single time. Conservatives are then voted in to rescue the economy, become complacent and the whole cycle regurgitates once again! Err think it's called DEMOCRACY! The current leader has as usual tried to run instead of walking and that was the consequent result of the last fiasco in Parliament.

We vote for politicians to do what is right in particular circumstances. If we employed them to listen to the public then we would have capital punishment as there is an overwhelming majority in favour of it. There is no absolute democracy. Our system is not perfect. We vote in MPs to run the country. If we do not like what they have done then we vote them out. That's the limit of our democracy.

Do you want capital punishment? If you don't then your version of democracy would not suit you.

Capital punishment what has that got to do with the price of bread? Your unreal!

if we had your version of democracy where the public got its way then we would be more isolationist, we would give no foreign aid, we would have violent punishment for crimes. The job of leaders is to lead.

Capital punishment and other things you may not want would be in place if the government listened to the public. The public taken as a whole are ignorant, aggressive and generally wrong about almost everything.