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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 18 Jun 2010 14:35 - 2862 of 6906

oh assuredly the ragheads and sand-wallahs, but in particular to the BNP and AWB and its followers (and their ilk) who have to hide behind a facade of so-called nationalism, bravado and bullying and bullshit in a vain attempt to disguise their innate inferiority

Haystack - 18 Jun 2010 15:27 - 2863 of 6906

ptholden
Yes, we can get rid of Trident and rely on Nato. Other members of Nato do not have nuclear weapons and neither do we have to have them. It just requires the will to change our current agreements. It won't change overnight and would probably take a few years, but we can do it.

cynic - 18 Jun 2010 15:51 - 2864 of 6906

i would be quite careful about arguing the need for nuclear deterrent with peter as he has the background to have a better idea of what he is talking about than you, or indeed most/all of the rest of us

Gausie - 18 Jun 2010 16:04 - 2865 of 6906

Cynic - Haystack's trolling. The veracity or stupidity of his arguments are irrelevant to him. He's just trying to get a rise. I've met the guy many times. In real life he's not nearly as daft as he seems on this thread.

ptholden - 18 Jun 2010 16:12 - 2866 of 6906

Actually, I agree Trident (or its replacement) can be disposed of (dependant on the political will to do so) whether we need the deterrent is an entirely different argument; it was the 'rely on NATO' comment that had me popping multiple ribs :-)

In The Land of the B - 18 Jun 2010 16:15 - 2867 of 6906

At one point I suspected haymaker might be a wind up merchant, but what sort of mentality bothers to churn out the sh*t he does. Same with fred the other nazi, plus clubman. At least fahel doesn't try to hide his hatred.
WYSIWYG.
What sort of lives do these people lead trolling BBs with nonsense.
Pathetic

Haystack - 18 Jun 2010 16:49 - 2868 of 6906

Gausie

"in real life he's not nearly as daft as he seems on this thread. "

That's the closest I expect to come to a compliment.

Technically I do have a Jewish friend. I have been friends with Gausie on Facebook for quite a time. I don't really use Facebook and only joined up because my son wanted me to to donate him some poker chips for the online poker game. The trouble is that everytime I log on, I get presented with hundreds of suggested friends that I might like to acquire. I think that about 90% of them are Gausie's family, which seems to be huge and the rest are my son's classmates.

In The Land of the B - 18 Jun 2010 18:47 - 2869 of 6906

"Technically I do have a Jewish friend"

Oh goody, goody. Aren't you just the liberated man of the world. An internationalist, no less. Proof, according to you, that you can't be anti-semitic and a man of hate - and why - because you have a Jewish "friend" on facebook. Wow...........

A friend is a friend and it doesn't matter what race, religion, sex(uality), nationality, (s)he is.
A friend is a friend regardless.
Get it?
No, I didn't think so.
A nation state is made up of widely different people, only an idiot condemns an entire nation.
Anyone who hates a whole country has something seriously wrong with them.
I suppose you hated all of America when Bush was President, but now with Obama all America is wonderful, huh?

Haystack - 18 Jun 2010 18:53 - 2870 of 6906

In The Land of the B

LOL

You are a pretty humourless person. So now I am 'nazi filth'. I am not sure what that makes you.

Actually I quite liked Bush, not so keen on Obama.

In The Land of the B - 18 Jun 2010 18:58 - 2871 of 6906

Hard left, "mate".
Anti Nazi League, remember?
Credit where it's due, at least you have a tiny bit of sense to realise the sun doesn't shine out of Obama's backside.
He makes Jimmy Carter look capable and a man of vision.

Haystack - 18 Jun 2010 20:09 - 2872 of 6906

In The Land of the B

Hard left, "mate".
Anti Nazi League,

otherwise known as nutters.

The Anti Nazi league cause more troube than there is most of the time. They seek to supress the viewpoint of people they disagree with. If there are BNP or NF meetings they try and disrupt them. You can see by the way that Nick Griffin was allowed to appear on Question Time that when they have an opportunity to air their views people realise that they are idiots. The Anti Nazi League were at the Television Centre on the night and were trying to stop Griffin from appearing. The more you try and supress them the more their supporters follow them.

I see that the ANL was setup by another bunch of nutters - The Socialist Workers Party.

Fred1new - 18 Jun 2010 21:47 - 2873 of 6906

Hays,

Do you still have friends?

8-)


Forgot there is always Gorsy.

In The Land of the B - 19 Jun 2010 00:31 - 2874 of 6906

Not sure any longer who is worst, you fred, clubman or haymaker.
Academic anyway.

yuff - 19 Jun 2010 08:49 - 2875 of 6906

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmV1ffKP0ms

Haystack - 19 Jun 2010 10:38 - 2876 of 6906

Thanks for the video. It is very funny.

It seems to be suggesting, by extension, that the USA should return their land to the native Indians.

I also like the last thing said, which is the funniest "if God said it then that settles it".

LOL

fahel - 20 Jun 2010 09:18 - 2877 of 6906

Spanish Song for Intifada

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH6FOrP2Pqw

fahel - 20 Jun 2010 14:53 - 2878 of 6906

Israeli Love Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Oqx3gRxNY&feature=player_embedded#!

Haystack - 22 Jun 2010 12:04 - 2879 of 6906

The UN human rights council (UNHRC) approved with a comfortable majority a draft resolution to form an international inquiry commission to investigate Israel's deadly attack on the Freedom Flotilla on May 31, which took place in international waters.

The European campaign to end the siege said in a press release that the UNHRC announced Monday the names of the commission's members, which includes prominent international human rights experts and jurists.

Israel has announced its own inquiry but some governments have expressed scepticism about its credibility.

.................

Israel has asked the UN to suspend attempts to organise an international inquiry into a deadly raid on a ship trying to break the blockade of Gaza.

Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said any inquiry should be shelved because new attempts to breach the blockade were still being organised.

..................

In a related context, the Dutch foreign ministry informed coordinator of the European campaign to end the siege Amin Abu Rashed and Dutch citizen Anna Da Yong, who participated in the Freedom Flotilla, that it will take care of all expenses of the lawsuit filed by them against Israel.

Abu Rashed, who is also a Dutch citizen, said in a press release that he and Da Yong last Thursday filed a lawsuit against the Israeli government on a charge of kidnapping them at sea and detaining them without the presence of a lawyer and claimed compensation for all material and moral damage done to them during and after the attack.

In The Land of the B - 22 Jun 2010 17:42 - 2880 of 6906

You just can't help digging up every little bit of anti-Israel material you can find, can you Comrade Hayes?
Is there anything else in your life?
Pathetic.

Haystack - 22 Jun 2010 18:05 - 2881 of 6906

LOL

I haven't posted anything on this for 2 days. I will find some more if you like. How about some anti nazi league comments?

"One of the little ironies that gave sharp witted observers of the world much pleasure over the years was the fact that the most Nazi organisation in Britain was the AntiNazi League.

Yes, wherever your friendly local right wing extremist group tried to exercise their democratic right to demonstrate peacefully in support of their point of view, the anti nazi league rent-a-mob would not be far away. Their faces contorted with rage the violent, stick waving, stone throwing thugs would try to shout down any opinion they did not agree with, so very like Hitlers bully boys.

The Anti Nazi League seems set to lose its position of the most irrational, fascistic, odious bunch of hate driven scumbags in Britain. A new bunch of leftie loony thugs who call themselves Unite Against Fascism has emerged obviously prompted by the Anti Nazi League not being insane enough. Unite Against Fascism will travel anywhere in the country to break up demonstrations by anyone who disagrees with them or simply does not agree with them passionately enough.

The primary targets of Unite Against Fascism are The English Defence League whose members protest against Islamic extremism. You may or may not agree with their doing that but so long as they do it peacefully it is their democratic right. Unite Against Fascism, like the Anti Nazi League do not believe in democracy, power through strength is their philosophy. They like to win their arguments by violence.

One would think with so many of them being university graduates they would find time to look up the definition of fascism in a dictionary."
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