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stanelco .......a new thread (SEO)     

bosley - 20 Feb 2004 09:34

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for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm


insiderinside - 15 Apr 2005 12:43 - 2880 of 27111

Please - it clearly states

The 12-month agreement will commence from the first Monday following two weeks
of further successful trials with three ASDA suppliers. This is expected to be
in April.

So it is still pending and not confirmed. And any RNS must state that all 3 trials of 2 weeks are successful - not just one is ok so far - the news must be all 3 or do not bother with an RNS.


In view of the 2 RNSs about the USA - this is my opinion -

SEO are trying to lead people into thinking a deal with Walmart is done - why else ? Its the SEO PR ramping machinery in action. If Tesco were to say they are upgrading their tills to be ready for 3bn profits - would they be ridiculed or would you say wow - they must be getting 3bn turnover very soon. The announcements could have been made when the Asda deal was confirmed - but they have shot their bolt as the share price needed support - it is clear and no one will argue that 18p is fair value and fairly high forward PE for 2006 financial year if the Asda deal is confirmed - it appears the SEO PR ramping team are trying to cater for fall back by feeding the frenzy for any news - even if its worthless. They are staring the facts of iterim and prelim losses to report for 2005. The concern should be - are they feeding the frenzy as there is going to be more delays on the Asda deal ? That is a valid question - is it just Smoke and Mirrors to divert attention.

insiderinside - 15 Apr 2005 12:47 - 2881 of 27111

I would not be surprised at all to see an RNS from SEO next week - telling us nothing - just some more spin and not saying what it needs to say - that would be its done and dusted and all ok and the Asda deal is now valid and no longer pending. This is an RNS I would say would give credence to the 18p value - but so far just spin and hype and smoke and mirrors.

overgrowth - 15 Apr 2005 12:47 - 2882 of 27111

Insiderinside - you really are working hard to short SEO lol!

Have you given up on trying to scare the advfn mob ?

bosley - 15 Apr 2005 12:49 - 2883 of 27111

please, it clearly states,

Stanelco PLC, the RF (radio frequency) applications group, is pleased to
announce that it has signed a binding contract with ASDA for a 12-month
exclusive agreement for the application of the Group's GREENSEAL tray lidding
and thermoforming RF technology in the UK and Ireland. ASDA anticipate that
several hundred machines will be adapted to utilise the technology due to the
significant benefits it delivers.

it does not need another rns telling us anything more. the start date is already in the rns.

"SEO are trying to lead people into thinking a deal with Walmart is done"

how? nobody from seo has mentioned that a deal with walmart is done. the biggest market for this technology is america. it makes a lot of sense to me to have teams of american engineers trained and ready to move if a deal is done in america, be it walmart or anyone else.

brain2brain - 15 Apr 2005 12:55 - 2884 of 27111

Sold GMC for quite a loss. Have just invested the remainder in some more of these in the hope of recouping some of the loss. For what it is worth I feel a lot happy now with this money in seo. A quick profit is nice but long term will do me fine.

Fingers crossed

B2B

djh57 - 15 Apr 2005 13:01 - 2885 of 27111

If insider cannot get the facts right about Tesco, then why should we take notice of his utterances on SEO. If Tesco announced that their turnover was going to be 3bn everybody would say wow as this would amount to a fall of 90%
Insider confuses his profit with t/over, can we assume everything else is confused?

overgrowth - 15 Apr 2005 13:08 - 2886 of 27111

djh57 - we certainly can assume everything else is confused from insiderinside.

These are classic "basher" tactics where constant bombardment of the BBs with negative postings is intended to scare investors into selling their shares.

Normally the basher will be short on the company until they've forced all the sellers out, then they buy back very low and wait for the news to come out which they really knew would be great (despite all their negative posts to the contrary).

insiderinside has already been revealed on advfn to be a "serial basher"...

Poverty - 15 Apr 2005 13:09 - 2887 of 27111

Insider who???? What? er Next please....

Well done B2B - I bought today as well! I lost some on GMC when they went to 22p intraday - I bought some then! Mutt head!! Only bought a few but a big fall makes everything magnified! win or lose. SEO are still my best share this year.

andysmith - 15 Apr 2005 13:15 - 2888 of 27111

Well, well folks. InsiderInsider, where have you been before now? Why are you so short on SEO? Don't you believe in the opportunities for RF not just with meat packs but other opportunities within packaging. Don't you believe Tony Ruane of ASDA (not SEO) when he talks about this technology and what it will deliver for Asda, that is the key point mate, ASDA are as big on this as SEO.
You do make one good point, if it all goes tits up SEO sp will nose-dive but it aint going to happen. Asda would not issue their own statements for it to go wrong, Advanced Energy and Premier would not waste time with agreements and training if it wasn't going to happen. I believe that you are scare-mongering and talking from inside your own arris x2 but you are nonetheless entitled to your opinion, I just find it strange that you have only just appeared. Is it too wet today for your hero to jump over several double-deckers!!
If you are a shorter and not just expressing an opinion, go on son, give us all the chance to buy again, those folks gave me a bargain last week.

andysmith - 15 Apr 2005 13:16 - 2889 of 27111

And we know what he's bashing!!!

Dil - 15 Apr 2005 13:28 - 2890 of 27111

That fat git couldn't jump over two Double Decker chocolate bars.

andysmith - 15 Apr 2005 13:36 - 2891 of 27111

It would be worth trying though!!!
Still, he plays the game legally apparently and is very rich. I'd rather earn my money honestly though. I said MMG would fall from 300p and sold out at 270p for >200% profit and will buy back again soon below 200p. I read the sp the same as he did and could if rich enough or good enough have taken CFD on that.
Would that make me the same as EK? Yes and NO, same thoughts on a stock at a particular time, different way of going about it I suppose. I'd rather stick to investing. The thing is long term he is wrong on MMG and he got it oh so wrong on SEO last week, perhaps Insiderx2 should take notice of that, the most well known shorter around closed his short position on SEO with a 400k loss.

overgrowth - 15 Apr 2005 13:45 - 2892 of 27111

Folks, bear in mind also that it has been known in the past for bashers to be "hired" by MMs looking to gather up plenty of shares in advance of good news.

In this situation they get paid per de-ramping post - all highly illegal of course, though could explain why insiderinside feels the need to post the same stuff everywhere multiple times lol!

watcher - 15 Apr 2005 13:55 - 2893 of 27111

facinating posts today, nice cover from the 3/6 month posters and of course time will tell if the faithful holders/investors have the fun with the celebration party. YET TO BE ORGANISED

watcher

Dil - 15 Apr 2005 14:12 - 2894 of 27111

overgrowth - I've heard that said before and even been accused of being one on the bprg thread but does anyone have any proof of it ?

Alternativley ... where do I apply to become one ? Well if someones prepared to pay me to say what I already believe then more fool them.

:-)

overgrowth - 15 Apr 2005 14:16 - 2895 of 27111

Dil - you have to be in with the City crowd, a wink and a nod over champers in the wine bar is all it takes...

roma - 15 Apr 2005 14:18 - 2896 of 27111

Asda is already commited to the environment, they are recycling tons of packaging now. Maybe they will the 1st supermarket to really make a difference,and save themselves a lot of money in the process.

sidtrix - 15 Apr 2005 14:39 - 2897 of 27111

InsidernowOutsider- you've said your wordz...you know you missed out on 18p and your really trying hard to get back in at that price but for gods sake just chill out now... We have heard what you have to say... now let all the other investers DTOR

-----BTW Just invested another 15% in SEO (Have a good feeling about this one!)

bhunt1910 - 15 Apr 2005 14:43 - 2898 of 27111

Ther was a big article in Which this week about the amount of waste that the supermarkets generate with un necessary packaging and non biodegradeable waste.

"Some attempts to make packaging more environmentally friendly work better than others. Tesco introduced biodegradeable packaging for organic fruit in 2001, claiming it could save millions of pounds in waste disposal. But its now used on just a few Tesco products as customeres weren't willing to pay for more costly packaging. Some other companies are still using biodegradeable packs. And they are not just limited to fruit; in Australia, Cadbury's Milk Tray chocolates are packed in plastic - a plastic made from corn starch that dissolves when wet and can be composted.

The Coop is pursuing new ways to cut excess packaging - for example by removing cartons from its tomato Puree and selling it in stand up tubes. Tesco is also working on using less cardboard - with a trial of thinner sleeves on its Finest ready meals. Tesco told its monitoring customers, reactions to its trial packs that, even if they sell well, it wont automatically extend the new thinner style to its standard ranges.

New laws means that were soon likely to see a new generation of food packaging. 'Active packs interact with food to prolong shelf life whilst intelligent packs tell you about the foods condition.EG Sainsbury's plans to sell pears packed with intelligent sensor labels'. These tell you when the pears are ripe by reacting to their aromas. Such innovations may seem to add to our packaging brden - but the hope is that they will lead to less food waste - another drain on lanf fill space"

........ and there more. It just goes to underline the potential of Green Seal and FrogPack and the amount of effort being put into reducing the cost of packaging and becoming more environmentally correct

Not a mention about ASDA - so I wrote to Which to enlighten them.

Baza

bosley - 15 Apr 2005 15:01 - 2899 of 27111

well done , baza.
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