Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Fred... Export Import figures, were tweeted by Mike hewson senior analyst at CMC markets.

Started a debate on twitter as to why Massive disconnect between PMI's and ONS data - discuss?

Says they usually have a slight variance but WHY such a big one this time.

Agreed Osbourne got the figs before they were published and shouldnt have.

My question is this did Camoron and Osbourne get the figures before PMQs and deliberatly mislead parliament???????????????????????????????????????????

One of the few good reasons to go cycle riding, in my view, is that you can't get done for drink driving.

but you may end up in the mortuary instead :-)

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Thank you Mnam, I'll keep that in mind! I think a few years ago some chap got done for driving a golf buggy home under the affluence of incohol, mind you I think he was on a motorway at the time, so he was probably pushing his luck a bit.

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I was stopped along with a few mates, cycling home 'merry' after our 'A' levels and told as much - "drunk in charge of a bicycle" - the two coppers let us off and watched us wobble off pushing our bikes.

DB,

That was Andy Powell after a Scotsman "spiked" his drink after Wales beat Scotland.

I wouldn't have liked to have stopped him!

Better looking than Manuel.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8515002.stm

i'm now deeply hurt :-(

Beat me to it Fred - I can't believe it was 4 years ago.

At least your not Welsh cynic! :-)

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Cynic,


Leaving the argy bargy out, what would you do in the Syrian conflict

1) Nothing other than humanitarian aid ?
2) Humanitarian and arms to said "rebels" ?
3) Above and attempts at "missile" degradation of Assad's weaponry?
4) Above with "advisors" on the ground?
5) Above above and feet on ground?


When, after negative or positive vote by Security Council?

With any of the above, what do you see as the situation in Syria and M.E.

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You have had your holiday.

Let us see if it has improved you!

Sorry to interrupt the serious post Fred, just giving Cynic time to gather his thoughts, but I didn't realise that was Andy Powell and 4 years ago! As a Scot I'm just glad we managed to get some revenge for the defeat, although I very much doubt his drink was "spiked" - Scots can usually drink any team into submission without using dubious tactics.

Your not wrong there db, biggest mistake made on moving to Scotland in 2002 was not trying to drink my new found friends under the table, keeping up with them was the problem :O)

in honesty, i really don't know ......

both sides are full of "nasty banditry" - e.g. al qaeda on one side and hezbollah on the other

i certainly believe the sarin attack was via assad's crew as otherwise they would have welcomed a visit from the un team with open arms - which patently they did not

chemical attack is perceived as singularly heinous, and though i sort-of understand the emotional logic to that, it sure didn't stop the americans using napalm and agent orange in vietnam without any world opprobrium that i recollect

a strictly limited strike, presumably against assad's chemical weapons caches - how do you then avoid the spread of these chemicals? - has strong knee-jerk appeal, but with what genuinely expected positive result and/or what happens when assad (and his cronies) then carry on as before?
nevertheless, with some or even considerable misgivings, i think it is an action that needs to be taken

i certainly don't think we should put troops on the ground, though i have little doubt that there will be or even are already covert groups of sas and similar already operational, just as there were in the oman conflict of the 60/70s

regardless of the political "benefit" of supplying humanitarian aid, i think the world has an obligation so to do, and if that means uk standing up and delivering while others promise much but do nothing (the usual!), then so be it ..... but i confess i am not about to send say £1,000 of my own money to some nebulous charity working in the region

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the above may or may not answer your questions and i care not one iota whether you think my holiday has "improved" me or not - said facetiously or not

contrary to your public offerings of my political views and worse, i have long been able to think for myself

Yes, but do your thoughts extend to others.


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Like you, I know what I like to happen, but dislike the unquantifiable reaction to justifiable "military intervention".

There are times when I am glad I don't have direct responsibility for actions.

"Civil wars are horrendous and the affects and effects go on for generations".

"There are times when I am glad I don't have direct responsibility for actions."

Was that when you thought you were Captain Mainwareing , and the men in white coat's had to take you away ?

Help.

It seems I have a stalker!

Me Cameron conceded, however, that he was not able to stop temporary restrictions imposed on the type of jobs open to Bulgarian and Romanian migrants from expiring in January 2014. mover 1.6 million are coming to the uk they have already got their papers ready . lock your doors do not go out to work your house will be taken over if you are not in .good information they no all the uk laws .it will take months to get your destroyed home back

read more about the migrants coming to the uk most are low life scum ex prisoners