Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Do you seriously think Cameroon is being "brave" for wanting to press the war button?

Politically brave, yes. It is always difficult to take an independent path. In this case the prevailing opinion is to turn one's back and do nothing.

It does look increasingly look like apeasement.

appease
To yield or concede to the belligerent demands of (a nation, group, person, etc.) in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

"war button" is something of an overstatement, but as i wrote yesterday, on balance and with considerable misgivings, i am just about persuaded that strong but limited action needs to be taken, and that therefore uk should indeed support those in favour of same (aka america)

doing nothing borders on appeasement

Bob Crow Calls For 'Alternative Political Party Of Labour'
Jacqueline Head   |   07 Sep 2013
Bob Crow, the rail union leader, is to call for an alternative "party of labour" to challenge the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems.

The general secretary of the Rail Maritime and Transport union, will tell a rally of activists that political representation of workers stands at a "crossroads" in the wake of the decision of the GMB to slash its affiliation funds to Labour by more than £1 million.

He will say: "Millions of working people are sick and tired of being treated as voting fodder by Labour," and add that a party needs to rise up to challenge the most brutal austerity measures "in a generation".

Speaking ahead of the TUC event in Bournemouth, he said: "Over the past two months we have seen Ed Miliband dancing to the tune of Tony Blair and the rest of the New Labour conspirators as he seeks to hack away at the last remaining shreds of influence held by those who created the Party that he leads, the trade unions.

"RMT's message is simple. If others want to stick around and be insulted by those whose only interest is our money and not our ideas then that's a matter for them, for the rest, there is a whole world of opportunity outside the constraints of the Labour Party and RMT would urge them to embrace it and join us in this new political project."

Mr Crow said that since being expelled from Labour a decade ago, the RMT has increased its political influence by backing candidates and parties demonstrating support for its policies.

He added: "Millions of working people are sick and tired of being treated as voting fodder by Labour and the time is right to start building an alternative political party that speaks for the working people and the working class communities that find themselves under the most brutal attack from cuts and austerity in a generation.

"Clinging to the wreckage of a Labour party that didn't lift a finger to repeal the anti-union laws despite 13 years in power is a complete waste of time."

Ok, so the west goes in with cruise missiles, and achieves what?

re: #28926

I bet Cameroon cant believe his luck.

Dirty Dealing on Syria in Washington


Posted on September 6, 2013 by Martin Armstrong





The only key Arab nations supporting Obama are Saudi Arabia and Qatar and that is all about the pipeline blocked by Syria. There are even rumors that the Cyprus event was used to cripple Russians and cut-off their eventual access to a huge gas field there yet to be brought into production. If the Russians gained control of that, then they would really have a stranglehold on Europe.

Credible sources keep pointing to a massive cover-up surrounding Syria – Benghazi Connection. The United States has literally trashed the region with its crazy foreign policy run by people who are truly clueless about the region and the religious conflicts. They messed up Iraq, Egypt, Afghanistan and now Libya is in chaos yet the press will not report that in the USA. The British Independent wrote:



More: http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/09/06/dirty-dealing-on-syria-in-washington/

Don't take any notice of that Armstrong character, he is a crook. I mean a real crook with 11 years in prison for fraud and contempt. He started as a juvenile offender that bullied the local kids and had to be sent to a military boarding school. He constantly makes outrageous claims usually against the government.

There was a G20 declaration for a strong response to Syria. The countries singing that declaration are Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Spain, Turkey, Britain and the United States.

This morning Germany has said it will sign the declaration due to new evidence it has seen showing Syria responsible for the chemical attacks.

that's still an awful lot of countries that won't support action .... whether that is on moral grounds rather than for other less savoury reasons, is a matter of speculation

The shit just keeps getting deeper ......


http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/12-u-s-intelligence-officials-tell-obama-it-wasnt-assad.html

Interesting article written by EX-intelligence people with no access to the current facts. They seem to have their own agenda in stopping any action.

NOTE.....

"We regret to inform you that some of our former co-workers are telling us, categorically, that contrary to the claims of your administration, the most reliable intelligence shows that Bashar al-Assad was NOT responsible for the chemical incident that killed and injured Syrian civilians on August 21, and that British intelligence officials also know this. In writing this brief report, we choose to assume that you have not been fully informed because your advisers decided to afford you the opportunity for what is commonly known as “plausible denial.”

Amazing.....

Microsoft buys Betamax


Microsoft has bought Betamax, hoping to steal a march on more successful rivals such as Apple and Samsung. Having dismissed the internet as ‘a passing fad’, and countered the threat of tablet computers by putting wheels on a PC, Steve Ballmer, Microsoft’s CEO, is keen to get the company back on track.

‘Betamax is a perfect match for the company’s aspirations, as we move towards the end of the 20th century’, Ballmer gushed at yesterday’s press reception. ‘Everybody’s into ‘retro’ these days. Hell, Betamax was good enough for us, when we were kids, and it’ll be good enough for the kids of today.’

When asked whether Microsoft was a backward looking company, out of touch with current trends, whose great days were in the distant past, Ballmer went into his now familiar ‘dad dance’. ‘Eat your heart out, Steve Jobs’, he yelled. ‘We’re back, baby, we’re back!’

Tripod

28935 - looks like pretty unimaginative disinfomation to me

28936 - "as we move towards the end of the 20th century" ........ oh really?

Rearrange the following... things other among ridiculous be would Syria Bombing.

because? ...... not that your opinion lacks validity just because, on balance, i don't agree with it

There is no "creditable evidence" that the Chemical atrocity came officially from the Asad side.

Trying to think of a sensible method of dealing with Syria.

The only solution I came up with was to :




send in a "hit squad to kill Assad and as many of his henchmen as possible and as soon as possible".




For the "Hit Squad" to be led by Cameron, with Hays as his intelligence officer and AlDs, Aldwick, Tanker and the Nightmare as physical support.

We would have to send Manuel as cook and bandage man and the Hills as backup in order to use her skill.

Of course at my age, even if I volunteered to go with them, I would be refused permission.


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Perhaps, this exposes my feelings feebleness.

Posters check out SKY news over the next 24 hours.

SKY at a A@E ward in Nottingham NHS Hospital for next 24 hours monitoring the service.

Should see the polls taken.

Camoron and his health minister Hunt in deep s--t.

You cant trust the NHS with the Tories.