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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

cynic - 08 Sep 2013 10:03 - 28960 of 81564

a special from ST for Village Idiot .....

Founder (Sked) splinters from 'racist' UKIP ....... Sked has described the party as anti-immigrant, anti-intellectual and and racist"

no wonder Village Idiot supports it!

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:07 - 28961 of 81564

Dave not a happy man with Ed's antics in the press this morning. No doubt Freddies newspaper has this page missing. :-))

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 10:07 - 28962 of 81564

No Syria effect

Update: Labour lead at 4
by YouGov in Politics
Sun September 8, 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sunday Times results 6th September - Con 34%, Lab 38%, LD 9%, UKIP 12%;

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:12 - 28963 of 81564

The humiliation of Ed Miliband: Labour leader's new crisis as he makes U-turn on union vote-rigging row after Unite 'threatens to bankrupt the party'
'Very existence' of party at risk after Miliband was forced to declare that Unite union was innocent of rigging selection vote

David Blunkett says Labour must change if it is to win the next election


By Glen Owen

PUBLISHED: 23:00, 7 September 2013 | UPDATED: 00:10, 8 September 2013


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415117/The-humiliation-Ed-Miliband-Labour-leaders-new-crisis-makes-U-turn-union-vote-rigging-row-Unite-threatens-bankrupt-party.html#ixzz2eI5qrwa6
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415117/The-humiliation-Ed-Miliband-Labour-leaders-new-crisis-makes-U-turn-union-vote-rigging-row-Unite-threatens-bankrupt-party.html

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 10:14 - 28964 of 81564

New poll blow for Ed Miliband

Ed Miliband suffers a fresh blow today as a new opinion poll cuts Labour's lead over the Conservatives to just one per cent going into the party conference season.

The ICM "Wisdom Index" survey for The Sunday Telegraph puts Labour on 32 per cent and the Tories on 31 per cent, up one point from last month.

The Liberal Democrats are unchanged since August on 16 per cent, as is the UK Independence Party (Ukip) on 12 per cent.

The Wisdom Index system asks voters to predict the result of the next general election, rather than which party they support.

The latest result means the public see the two leading parties heading into the autumn conference season effectively neck and neck in terms of likely winners in 2015.

Conventional polls have also showed lower Labour leads over David Cameron's party over the last few weeks.

Martin Boon, director of ICM Research, said: "With the Tories looking buoyant - at least on a domestic front given so many positive noises emerging from various economic sources - their Wisdom showing gives further succour to those who believe that, very soon, Labour leads will turn into Conservative leads."

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:15 - 28965 of 81564

Labour will now be trounced , BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:16 - 28966 of 81564

Don't choke on your cornflakes Fred. lol

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:18 - 28967 of 81564

There are enough daft pictures of the labour party without turning to cheap cartoons.

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 10:24 - 28968 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/poll-cameron-miliband-syria

Cameron unharmed by defeat over Syria, poll finds

Labour's lead over the Tories shrinks by seven to five points – while the verdict on Miliband's leadership is scathing

Labour's lead over the Conservatives has shrunk from seven to just five points in the last fortnight, suggesting that David Cameron has not suffered any real damage in the eyes of the public from his House of Commons defeat over Syria.

The latest Opinium/Observer poll puts Labour on 35% (down one percentage point compared with two weeks ago), the Conservatives on 30% (up one percentage point), Ukip on 17% (down one percentage point) and the Liberal Democrats on 7% (down one percentage point).

dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:40 - 28969 of 81564

Are they having a laugh, because I am. Labour will ditch Ed and never recover for the next election.


dreamcatcher - 08 Sep 2013 10:46 - 28970 of 81564

A UKIP vote will just be like screwing you voting paper up and throwing it in the bin.
A wasted vote. UKIP not even in the running.

cynic - 08 Sep 2013 10:48 - 28971 of 81564

ST is actually worth reading for a change

apart from the article re UKIP splintering, already mentioned above, there is also one re the possible source of the base for the sarin gas used in syria (if true, then a further indicator that the attack was instigated by assad's lot), and finally one on a concerted effort to dramatically reduce the number of (spurious) EU commissioners.

the latter is partially dependent on Angela Merkel being returned, and if successful would likely result in many EU powers being repatriated to the individual sovereign states ..... now that really would put the cat among assorted pigeons

Fred1new - 08 Sep 2013 13:20 - 28973 of 81564

Think Miliband is doing the correct thing and also agree with McClusky statement in that he represents a large body of the public and has a perfect right to try to act for their benefit.

But whatever happen it smells a great deal more pleasant than the "finances" of this grubby tory cabal.


Is it true that Wavey Dave has had a direct line put in from No 10 to his puppet master in the Cayman Isles?

But as expected the tories are getting frightened and running to their mates in what use to be decent papers to smear and denigrate leaders of other who think differently to themselves.


A grubby party machine which I can see backfiring.



Mind the NHS service is safe in the torie hands. (Lying Bs. comes to mind.)


Apologies just an incompetent bunch.

The grandees are turning in their graves.

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 13:33 - 28974 of 81564

The whole Labour investigation about vote rigging stinks. The police had to drop their case as 'critical evidence' was withdrawn. Now Labour are refusing to release their report and are saying that no rules broken as they existed at the time. I spy a lucky loophole. The opinion seems to be that those involved are not innocent and the case is 'unproven'.

Miliband has come out if it with substantial egg on his face and worse. He has managed to lose £1m of union money and the opinion polls show the public didn't care about the union funding. So he has managed to upset his backers with no political gain.

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 13:41 - 28975 of 81564

Has the Labour leader caved in over Falkirk?

It certainly looks like it. On Friday it was announced that key evidence in the Falkirk case had been withdrawn and those from Unite who had been suspended from the party have had their membership restored. It is suggested by MPs that Unite had threatened to boycott the Labour conference this month over the row, and that the party leadership backed down. One MP said: “A deal was done. It is not very edifying, but there you are. It had to happen as we’re not that far from the general election.”

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 13:44 - 28977 of 81564

The unravelling relationship with the trade unions is potentially very embarrassing. Some Labour MPs are warning that the vast majority of trade union members have no interest in accepting Mr Miliband’s invitation to sign up as individual party members. It could leave Labour facing potential bankruptcy without big union donations.

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 14:32 - 28978 of 81564

The founder of the Ukip has launched his own Eurosceptic party for those who see his old organisation as "racist".

Professor Alan Sked, 66, launched the centre-left New Deal to challenge Labour in 2015 and provide an alternative to what he sees as an "anti-immigrant" and "anti-intellectual" UK Independence Party.

Sked will advocate a withdrawal from the EU, renationalisation of the railways and an end to the coalition’s so-called bedroom tax.

He said: "I think the majority of the people in this country want out of the EU," reports the Sunday Times.

"They would like a party devoted to this cause, but couldn’t vote for one that was extremely right wing. They will now be given a serious alternative to the major parties and to UKIP."

Haystack - 08 Sep 2013 14:33 - 28979 of 81564

Just another UKIP butter.
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