Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/sep/07/poll-cameron-miliband-syria

Cameron unharmed by defeat over Syria, poll finds

Labour's lead over the Tories shrinks by seven to five points – while the verdict on Miliband's leadership is scathing

Labour's lead over the Conservatives has shrunk from seven to just five points in the last fortnight, suggesting that David Cameron has not suffered any real damage in the eyes of the public from his House of Commons defeat over Syria.

The latest Opinium/Observer poll puts Labour on 35% (down one percentage point compared with two weeks ago), the Conservatives on 30% (up one percentage point), Ukip on 17% (down one percentage point) and the Liberal Democrats on 7% (down one percentage point).

Are they having a laugh, because I am. Labour will ditch Ed and never recover for the next election.

A UKIP vote will just be like screwing you voting paper up and throwing it in the bin.
A wasted vote. UKIP not even in the running.

ST is actually worth reading for a change

apart from the article re UKIP splintering, already mentioned above, there is also one re the possible source of the base for the sarin gas used in syria (if true, then a further indicator that the attack was instigated by assad's lot), and finally one on a concerted effort to dramatically reduce the number of (spurious) EU commissioners.

the latter is partially dependent on Angela Merkel being returned, and if successful would likely result in many EU powers being repatriated to the individual sovereign states ..... now that really would put the cat among assorted pigeons

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/war-comes-to-syrias-quiet-christian-hinterland-8803394.html

Think Miliband is doing the correct thing and also agree with McClusky statement in that he represents a large body of the public and has a perfect right to try to act for their benefit.

But whatever happen it smells a great deal more pleasant than the "finances" of this grubby tory cabal.


Is it true that Wavey Dave has had a direct line put in from No 10 to his puppet master in the Cayman Isles?

But as expected the tories are getting frightened and running to their mates in what use to be decent papers to smear and denigrate leaders of other who think differently to themselves.


A grubby party machine which I can see backfiring.



Mind the NHS service is safe in the torie hands. (Lying Bs. comes to mind.)


Apologies just an incompetent bunch.

The grandees are turning in their graves.

The whole Labour investigation about vote rigging stinks. The police had to drop their case as 'critical evidence' was withdrawn. Now Labour are refusing to release their report and are saying that no rules broken as they existed at the time. I spy a lucky loophole. The opinion seems to be that those involved are not innocent and the case is 'unproven'.

Miliband has come out if it with substantial egg on his face and worse. He has managed to lose £1m of union money and the opinion polls show the public didn't care about the union funding. So he has managed to upset his backers with no political gain.

Has the Labour leader caved in over Falkirk?

It certainly looks like it. On Friday it was announced that key evidence in the Falkirk case had been withdrawn and those from Unite who had been suspended from the party have had their membership restored. It is suggested by MPs that Unite had threatened to boycott the Labour conference this month over the row, and that the party leadership backed down. One MP said: “A deal was done. It is not very edifying, but there you are. It had to happen as we’re not that far from the general election.”

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/iainmartin1/100234833/tories-aim-to-finish-off-struggling-miliband/

The unravelling relationship with the trade unions is potentially very embarrassing. Some Labour MPs are warning that the vast majority of trade union members have no interest in accepting Mr Miliband’s invitation to sign up as individual party members. It could leave Labour facing potential bankruptcy without big union donations.

The founder of the Ukip has launched his own Eurosceptic party for those who see his old organisation as "racist".

Professor Alan Sked, 66, launched the centre-left New Deal to challenge Labour in 2015 and provide an alternative to what he sees as an "anti-immigrant" and "anti-intellectual" UK Independence Party.

Sked will advocate a withdrawal from the EU, renationalisation of the railways and an end to the coalition’s so-called bedroom tax.

He said: "I think the majority of the people in this country want out of the EU," reports the Sunday Times.

"They would like a party devoted to this cause, but couldn’t vote for one that was extremely right wing. They will now be given a serious alternative to the major parties and to UKIP."

Just another UKIP butter.

"dreamcatcher Post 08 Sep 2013 10:15 - 28967 of 28981

Labour will now be trounced , BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Nightmare,

Any honourable PM or decent man in the same position as Cameron would have resign after his defeat in the HP.

It demonstrates his own ability to manage his own party, incapability to represent the UK on the international scene.

Putin was yawning when Wacky Dave spoke.

Yes, he should resign.


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I think as has been said it is time for Labour and "unions" to review some of their relationships.

That also applies to the corrupt practices which torie leadership get involved in.

Like letting Murdoch in through the back door.

Or allowing, ministers to sign on fellow travelers on their expense accounts for oversea trips.

The next election going to be dirty.

Split ukip's vote...cute.

Who will resign first Dave or Ed. Made my decision.

Dave after the next election.

IDS would suit the New Tory Party after the right wingers split to UKIP.


8-)

Was the Duke Drunk or was he trying to nick a bits and pieces?

''Dave after the next election''. Why would he resign when he wins it ?

Your the one who sound's drunk

Yes Fred, as we all know it is normal practice to resign when you win. As in the case of............. Oops, I can't think of an example,