I felt a thread should be started on the role of Piers Morgan in the 'picture allegations' which are being bandied around the world.
Whether or not these pictures are real, I would like to see this man hauled across the coals!! I feel very strongly that the position he has taken has put the life of british soldiers and foreigners (especially those working in arab countries)in jeopardy.
As far as I am concerned, he is just a jumped up gossip columnist who is out to make as much money as possible with little regard to the actual consequences.
In my opinion, the british government were wrong to participate in this war, but it does not change the fact the Mr Morgan has been , and will be, a large contributer to further british, australian, new zealand, south african and other westerners deaths in arab countries, with his ill thought out publishing of these pictures.
I also feel that this will just fuel the terrorist cause.
If I had to describe Mr Morgan in 2 words, they would be 'dangerous' and 'greedy'..

EDIT....and now unemployed!!!!

jules,how are you getting on with this thread??%wise
as for maxine carr,,,not as daft as she makes out,,,or is she?

Shoot him.

Regards

Nice sub- header in the Torygraph-"End of the Piers Show"

I dont suppose that the danger to American and British Troops in Iraq is in any way the result of the misdirected or indisciplined actions of the leaders and some of the soldiers on the ground.

Some of these actions were seen on ITV and BBC news programmes well in advance of PM. Similar brutalities were shown of the actions of Americans in Afghanistan and Guantanamo.

IMO These actions reflect the value systems of some of the American hierarchy being passed down to those on the ground, that is, a greater valuation of our boys compared with a son or daughter of an Arab. (The same type of disregard of other human beings took place in some of the actions by British Troops a few years ago in Northern Ireland.)

I can excuse violent, ugly inhumane actions in the fury of battle, although I wish it could be different, but not when these actions are carried out in a relatively safe situation with unarmed prisoners.

I certainly dont advocate the actions of the Iraqis slitting the throat of the American. I found it appalling. But likewise I found it appalling when we were bombarding the Iraq targets from 5miles up in the air with disregard for civilian population.

If Blair, Bush, and Rumsfeld etc. had visited not only the troops but also the hospitals and seen the children and other non-combatants, dismembered or mutilated I think they may be more circumspect about their actions.

I am not a pacifist, but I do think the Iraq Fiasco was unnecessary and the Sadam Problem could have been resolved in a different way. Again, I do expect that the decencies of a relatively civilised societies like Britain, France and in general, the West, should be observed by their troops if we are occupying another peoples country.


As far as the Mirror and PM is concerned I think it is wrong to have printed false evidence knowingly. Similarly for Blair and WMDs. Both should fall apologise and fall on their swords, hopefully blunt ones, in PMs case, to the readers and if the bases behind the allegations are not true, to the troops.

In Blairs case, the apologies should be to the British people, United Nations and Europe. Until the United Nations is involved in supervisory role, I can see the Iraq problem and World Instability increasing. This is reflected by the oil prices and world markets at the present time.

Yeah, we are always wrong, give them back Sadam and leave them to it

No not always, just sometimes

I am pleased that we went to war with Iraq and I expect a good outcome in the long run. I also hope that Blair suffers because of it. Not because I don't agree with him, but because I have never like Blair.

I would like to see Gordon Brown take over as I think he is unlikey to get elected and therefore we will get rid of the Labour government.

I would suggest Bush for PM. which PM I don't mind!

Ps What would be a good outcome??????

Iraq will be a guide for much of the middle east. For a number of reasons the West (US and UK) have chosen Iraq as a place to fight the forces of terrorism. The terrorists have done the same. The outcome there will dictate the future of terrorism on a global scale. The US knows this and that is why they will stay there.

I have noted your comments (crunch) I understand your concerns (crunch) let's just go back to the reasons (crunch) the reasons we liberated EyeRaq (choke)
OIL
Pure and simple
In fact so pure
it's more like the Sunflower kind
In the end, after a few senseless deaths, we will manage to keep the world's economies growing until my close friends in the Automotive and Manufacturing Industries will be able to invest in and indeed profit from alternative fuels.
It was a stroke of luck (or perhaps God's will) that I could cloak my intentions with the terrible atrocities of 911, (such a cheap looking dashboard on germany's finest[but my friends will be pleased to hear, the all new version has used far superior materials and the exterior looks less like it's cheaper more economical stablemate]}

Mistakes have been made on all sides.
Let's get back to the issue of where we go from here.
In the near future I will be turning my attention to the WAR AGAINST NICOTINELLE
I am just waiting for an opportune time, perhaps the forthcoming film showing the effects of global warming may give terror groups some ideas, we can only sit back and hope.

God bless y'all

Hang him for treason - typical left of centre view.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument