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ENVESTA TELECOM A NEW BEGINING (EVS)     

peteark - 24 May 2005 13:03

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Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:31 - 29 of 1643

It won't have any efect on my posts. I don't like EVS as a business and I think it is over priced at present. I will continue to post negative views as that is how I feel about the company. At least on here, abuse is not permitted. If you have opposing views on a stock then you just have to accept that fact.

Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:32 - 30 of 1643

The type of business that EVS is in, is a high risk proposition. There is nothing wrong with the company and its products all look good. It is the valuation that I have trouble with. They cannot carry on with their current margins for ever as the cut price call market is being squeezed from several directions.

You only have to look at web sites like

http://niftylist.co.uk/

to see how cheap calls can be.

Many people on this BB and the Traders' BB are using www.18866.com and www.1899.com for their calls. Several people who have companies are also using them for cheap international calls, cheap UK calls and cheap calls to mobiles.

The web site http://niftylist.co.uk/ gives even cheaper calls to some places than 1899 and 18866.

EVS have a new part of their company called Cheaper Call Rate. It is cheaper than BT and some call companies, but nowhere near the cheapest. Cheapness of calls is the prime mover in the cheap call market. How successful CCR becomes s anyone's guess at the moment.

DarthVader - 24 May 2005 14:32 - 31 of 1643

OK, can we all shut up about Haystack now and turn the attention to our investment, please.
Whoever even mentiones Haystack will be cut in half with my lifesabre.

advans - 24 May 2005 14:32 - 32 of 1643

I think we should be allowed to respond if he ever says anything sensible!!

Ah, that says it all!

Hullman, hopefully we can develop this thread into the standard of the old!

Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:37 - 33 of 1643

There was some positive broker comment about EVS recently from Seymour Pierce.

But what a surprise! It was EVS's house broker supporting their client. Now, who believes in comments made by house brokers. Who has ever seen a house broker issuing a SELL note?

QUINAN - 24 May 2005 14:39 - 34 of 1643

Hi all All thought I would join the party

advans - 24 May 2005 14:42 - 35 of 1643

Hi Quin, hope you have adhered to the law and hit the 'squelch' tab! I haven't seen a single adverse post since being here!!

Oh, please try to watch your 'there's and their's', this is a very upperclass thread, you know!


shareguevara - 24 May 2005 14:43 - 36 of 1643

Hope so advans, although unless everybody uses the filter and sticks with it I suspect it will be exactly the same.

advans - 24 May 2005 14:47 - 37 of 1643

Well, pete has squelched him, I have and if we can get everybody to do it as they come on, then there will be two alternative threads, one with Hay and one without. Sounds fair to me. Individual choice!!

Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:50 - 38 of 1643

Well you wouldn't want to see anything negative about EVS would you. It is much better to just believe that everything is alright as the price drops.

DarthVader - 24 May 2005 14:51 - 39 of 1643

Well after 10 min it is obvious that this thread is all about THE NUMPTY and nothing to do with EVS.
Just a bunch of divas with overinflated egos....unionhall hit the raw nerve!
So long everyone!

peteark - 24 May 2005 14:52 - 40 of 1643

maybe we can find out when they are next reporting?

Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:53 - 41 of 1643

Talking of price drops. WINS MM has dropped the price back to what it was. There has been a lot of selling this morning. I don't think they coud have held the price up for any longer.

Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:55 - 42 of 1643

DarthVader
The trouble is that there is nothing much positive to say about EVS. Previous threads have just been a series of ramps and stock hypes.

advans - 24 May 2005 14:57 - 43 of 1643

darthvader, there will have to be an interim period to ensure everybody filters him out. Look at Guru's last post on thr Dark side, Hay has not posted there for a while yet he is still the subject of a post. Once enough people take on board that this thread HAS to be different to survive, we will have a haystack free BB.


He is now permanently filtered by a few, and we have every chance of accomplishing it as people sign in.


Haystack - 24 May 2005 14:59 - 44 of 1643

LOL

Delusions of grandeur!

peteark - 24 May 2005 14:59 - 45 of 1643

I am sure 99% will agree and filter the chod.....I have asked the question in regards to the next reporting date, however I am unsure if I will get an answer....how you feeling Ad any better?

Haystack - 24 May 2005 15:01 - 46 of 1643

The type of business that EVS is in, is a high risk proposition. There is nothing wrong with the company and its products all look good. It is the valuation that I have trouble with. They cannot carry on with their current margins for ever as the cut price call market is being squeezed from several directions.

You only have to look at web sites like

http://niftylist.co.uk/

to see how cheap calls can be.

Many people on this BB and the Traders' BB are using www.18866.com and www.1899.com for their calls. Several people who have companies are also using them for cheap international calls, cheap UK calls and cheap calls to mobiles.

The web site http://niftylist.co.uk/ gives even cheaper calls to some places than 1899 and 18866.

EVS have a new part of their company called Cheaper Call Rate. It is cheaper than BT and some call companies, but nowhere near the cheapest. Cheapness of calls is the prime mover in the cheap call market. How successful CCR becomes s anyone's guess at the moment.

britshare - 24 May 2005 15:02 - 47 of 1643

NIFTYLIST is for the NUMPTIES

Haystack - 24 May 2005 15:03 - 48 of 1643


CCR have an uphill battle to gain any serious market share. Even AOL are now offering a service for 7.99/month and you get to call all UK landlines for free. This is just one of dozens of special deals that will be coming out very soon. This is a cut throat businss with margins getting tighter all the time. The very ease of use of the CCR service is also its potential downfall. You can switch away from CCR at a moment's notice.

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