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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dreamcatcher - 09 Sep 2013 17:31 - 29116 of 81564

Good to see Russia has said to Syria to put its arms under international control.
Just hope Syria is all talk and does not retaliate with more chemical attacks.

cynic - 09 Sep 2013 17:36 - 29117 of 81564

an interesting article DC

suddenly, and assuming the report is true (it looks likely), not only is it admitted that Assad has chemical weapons, and thus by inference used them, but Russia is taking a much stronger and proper line with her ally ..... and finally, America says that (only) by handing over this chemical arsenal, a punitive attack can be averted


as usual, and quite rightly in these situations, we only ever get to hear what it is deemed we should hear ..... though it's a bit of a tightrope, i'm very happy to go along with that and may the likes of Snowden be sent to a gulag in Outer Mongolia

dreamcatcher - 09 Sep 2013 18:18 - 29118 of 81564

The ball is in Syria's court, they have time to avoid the bombing etc.

Haystack - 09 Sep 2013 18:22 - 29119 of 81564

I can't see Assad agreeing ahead of a vote in Congress. If he leaves it until after the vote he may not have any time left. The US has said it is ready to go.

MaxK - 09 Sep 2013 18:31 - 29120 of 81564

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/09/russia-syria-hand-over-chemical-weapons


Russia calls on Syria to hand over chemical weapons

• Assad regime urged to put weapons under international control
• Gambit follows Kerry's 'end-of-week' offer to avert strikes
• Syria welcomes Russian proposal



Julian Borger and Patrick Wintour

theguardian.com, Monday 9 September 2013 17.45 BST


hilary - 09 Sep 2013 19:30 - 29121 of 81564

goldfinger - 09 Sep 2013 17:10 - 29108 of 29122
I dont think its anything to do with your age and your partners age re-to middle age.

As Hilary will know Im 39 but my girlfreind is only 28...


How the Hell am I meant to know how old you are? You've spouted so much crap on here about an assortment of things (not just your age) that nobody either believes a word you say anymore, nor do they give two hoots.

But, until such time as Big Dave outlaws Muppet Baiting, and makes it an offence punishable by watching Spurs try to play 90 minutes of football, please do continue to entertain everyone here with your normal copious supply of claptrap.

Haystack - 09 Sep 2013 19:36 - 29122 of 81564

R U disrespecting Spurs?

hilary - 09 Sep 2013 19:37 - 29123 of 81564

No, I think they're quite capable of disrespecting themselves without my involvement.

Chris Carson - 09 Sep 2013 19:37 - 29124 of 81564

:O) He'll pretend your squelched on the naughty step again hils LOL.

Haystack - 09 Sep 2013 19:56 - 29125 of 81564

Hilary
Who do you support?

Fred1new - 09 Sep 2013 20:14 - 29126 of 81564

Be careful, if you answer that question.

cynic - 09 Sep 2013 20:30 - 29127 of 81564

her husband

hilary - 09 Sep 2013 20:40 - 29128 of 81564

Haystack,

Doncha know?

Cyners,

No, he gets enough support. Seriously, I know my place and I can't compete.

goldfinger - 09 Sep 2013 22:31 - 29129 of 81564

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

goldfinger - 09 Sep 2013 22:31 - 29130 of 81564

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

goldfinger - 09 Sep 2013 22:40 - 29131 of 81564

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

Chris Carson - 09 Sep 2013 23:18 - 29132 of 81564

By Martin Evans, Crime Correspondent
1:34PM BST 09 Sep 2013
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Detective Superintendent Steve Fulcher was suspended almost a year ago over his handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Sian O’Callaghan in Wiltshire in 2011.

The highly experienced officer ignored guidelines set down in the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) about how suspects should be questioned claiming he was acting in the best interests of the victims.

Rather than take suspect Christopher Halliwell to a police station to be questioned in the presence of a lawyer, Det Supt Fulcher subjected him to an “urgent interview” at the scene of where he believed he had taken his victim.

The unorthodox approach resulted in local taxi driver, Halliwell, admitting to not only the murder of Miss O’Callaghan, but also to that of another girl, Becky Godden-Edwards.

Despite showing detectives where both bodies were hidden, the charges relating to Miss Godden-Edwards were thrown out on the grounds that DS Fulcher had failed to follow the correct arrest procedures.

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The officer was also being investigated over alleged inappropriate dealings with the media during the case.

The IPCC ruled that in both areas his actions warranted a case of gross misconduct.

The report stated: “The effect of Det Supt Fulcher’s actions was catastrophic, particularly on the prosecution of Mr Halliwell for the murder of Rebecca [Godden-Edwards].

“Det Supt Fulcher stated had he not proceeded as he did, Rebecca’s remains may never have been found. However it is not possible to determine what may have happened if Mr Halliwell had been immediately conveyed to custody after his arrest and urgent interview by detectives.”

But despite the findings, Miss Godden-Edwards’ mother Karen Edwards, has always backed DS Fulcher’s actions insisting his approach resulted in her finally locating her missing daughter’s remains.

She has since campaigned for a change in the PACE guidelines to prevent a similar situation ever arising again.

IPCC Deputy Chair Rachel Cerfontyne said: "This is a difficult time for all concerned with this case and especially the families and friends of Sian and Becky, especially after all they have already had to endure.

"This investigation has been a highly unusual one, as the majority of facts, in particular in relation to Mr Godden's complaint, are undisputed and already in the public domain.

"We will never know what may have happened if the Pace Codes had been followed.

"However, Detective Superintendent Fulcher's actions were in deliberate breach of Pace and we find that he has a case to answer for gross misconduct.

"Also, Detective Superintendent Fulcher, despite no longer having responsibility for Operation Mayan, and against express orders, went ahead with meetings about the case with journalists from both the BBC and ITV.

"This behaviour is even more extraordinary when set in the context that the trial judge had already considered whether force press conferences given by Detective Superintendent Fulcher were prejudicial to the case against Halliwell.

"We find that he has a case for gross misconduct for this as well and it will now be for Wiltshire Police to decide what action to take and I await their proposals."

A spokesman for the Wiltshire Force said: “We can confirm that we have received a copy of the IPCC’s report.

“We are taking this matter very seriously and we are currently in the process of carefully considering the recommendations made within the report and our subsequent response to the IPCC.

"We will be taking into account the needs of the families whilst deliberating the recommendations.

“Wiltshire Police are continuing to offer welfare support to Det Supt Fulcher throughout this ongoing process. It would be inappropriate for us to comment further at this stage.”

If the Wiltshire force agree with the IPCC findings, Det Supt Fulcher will face a gross misconduct panel which will decide his fate.
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Am I alone in thinking the law is an Ass?

MaxK - 09 Sep 2013 23:45 - 29133 of 81564



Obama's rogue state tramples over every law it demands others uphold

For 67 years the US has pursued its own interests at the expense of global justice – no wonder people are sceptical now


George Monbiot

The Guardian, Monday 9 September 2013 20.30 BST


You could almost pity these people. For 67 years successive US governments have resisted calls to reform the UN security council. They've defended a system which grants five nations a veto over world affairs, reducing all others to impotent spectators. They have abused the powers and trust with which they have been vested. They have collaborated with the other four permanent members (the UK, Russia, China and France) in a colonial carve-up, through which these nations can pursue their own corrupt interests at the expense of peace and global justice.

Eighty-three times the US has exercised its veto. On 42 of these occasions it has done so to prevent Israel's treatment of the Palestinians being censured. On the last occasion, 130 nations supported the resolution but Barack Obama spiked it. Though veto powers have been used less often since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the US has exercised them 14 times in the interim (in 13 cases to shield Israel), while Russia has used them nine times. Increasingly the permanent members have used the threat of a veto to prevent a resolution being discussed. They have bullied the rest of the world into silence.


More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/09/obama-rogue-state-tramples-every-law
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