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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 25 Jun 2010 22:06 - 2912 of 6906

so should sinn fein be compelled to take up their seats in parliament?

Haystack - 25 Jun 2010 22:18 - 2913 of 6906

Yes. Although it is not the same as these people do take their seats. They are part of a democratically elected party.

fahel - 26 Jun 2010 10:38 - 2914 of 6906

UK Jewish MP: Israel acting like Nazis in Gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMGuYjt6CP8

Haystack - 26 Jun 2010 11:37 - 2915 of 6906

The speech was made January 2009 and Israel is far worse these days. Very interesting video. Lots of very well made points.

"Israel was born out of Jewish Terrorism" Tzipi Livnis Father was a Terrorist" Astonishing claims in the House of Parliament. SIR Gerald Kaufman, the veteran Labour MP, compared the actions of Israeli troops in Gaza to the Nazis who forced his family to flee Poland.

During a Commons debate on the fighting in Gaza, he urged the government to impose an arms embargo on Israel.

Sir Gerald, who was brought up as an orthodox Jew and Zionist, said: "My grandmother was ill in bed when the Nazis came to her home town a German soldier shot her dead in her bed.

"My grandmother did not die to provide cover for Israeli soldiers murdering Palestinian grandmothers in Gaza. The present Israeli government ruthlessly and cynically exploits the continuing guilt from gentiles over the slaughter of Jews in the Holocaust as justification for their murder of Palestinians."

He said the claim that many of the Palestinian victims were militants "was the reply of the Nazi" and added: "I suppose the Jews fighting for their lives in the Warsaw ghetto could have been dismissed as militants."

He accused the Israeli government of seeking "conquest" and added: "

They are not simply war criminals, they are fools."

cynic - 26 Jun 2010 13:24 - 2916 of 6906

honest to God, I really do think a bundle of you guys on this thread are an accurate reflection of the hotheads, lunatics and rabblerousers in gaza and israel ...... one thing's for sure; there'll never be a sensible solution as long there are people like you, and your counterparts in middle east ..... both sides are thoroughly in the wrong (verging on evil), but both sides are equally purblind to their own stupidity and arrogance with a total disregard for the general populace for whom they pretend to be fighting ..... now i can see a good use for cyklon b and phosgene and the like

Clubman3509 - 26 Jun 2010 14:47 - 2917 of 6906

Gas they will understand.

cynic - 26 Jun 2010 15:28 - 2918 of 6906

that was the general idea!

In The Land of the B - 26 Jun 2010 17:55 - 2919 of 6906

The last three posts are disgusting.
Some of you are serious nazi scumbags and as such are way beneath sensible debate.
For people who have lost relatives in the gas chambers and torture chambers your comments are offensive in the extreme.
A gallows sense of humour is one thing, some of you are sick and plain evil.
They are fahel, fred, Greg Hayes, clubman and I'm sorry to say, cynic.
My wife's mother has a photo of her as a child taken at a wedding in the 30s.
There are 21 people in that photo. Only three survived the nazis.
I'm sure that little piece of info gives you bastards a hard on.
You will be delighted to know that I for one will never look in here again.

cynic - 26 Jun 2010 18:50 - 2920 of 6906

well that's one arsehole out of the way then .... let's hope fred and his pals join him

by the way, a lot of my family were also sent to the concentration camps ... most died there though one or two survived, so stop being such a sanctimonious prick.
life moves on, even if you and some others do not

by the way, have you ever visited one of the camps? .... it is a salutary experience

Haystack - 26 Jun 2010 20:27 - 2921 of 6906

In The Land of the B

You may not like my last post, but I did not say those things such as likening Israel to Nazis. They were said by Sir Gerald Kaufman, the well known Jewish Labour MP. Perhaps you would like to call him a few names. Did you even watch the video? It might teach you a few things.

cynic - 26 Jun 2010 20:38 - 2922 of 6906

so might a whiff of cyklon b do likewise for you!

Clubman3509 - 26 Jun 2010 20:39 - 2923 of 6906

I have been to ALCATRAZ does that count.

cynic - 26 Jun 2010 20:56 - 2924 of 6906

me too .... interesting place is it not .... dachau however was cathartic

fahel - 27 Jun 2010 10:27 - 2925 of 6906

The FBI Knocked on My Door!

http://www.blip.tv/file/3735925

fahel - 27 Jun 2010 10:39 - 2926 of 6906

edited moneyam

Chris Carson - 27 Jun 2010 11:05 - 2927 of 6906

Really are some serious mental cases in our society, half of them appear to be posting on this thread.

MightyMicro - 27 Jun 2010 11:48 - 2928 of 6906

Well, I suppose we could ask MoneyAM to remove this thread.

The problem as I see it is that the nonsense would just break out somewhere else. Perhaps more severe moderation of some of the wilder, more racist and inflammatory nonsense is called for?

mnamreh - 27 Jun 2010 12:03 - 2929 of 6906

.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2010 12:55 - 2930 of 6906

I think that removal of post 2926 would be a very good idea as would some the explicit references to Jews as well. This thread is dicusssing Israel and NOT Jews.

Haystack - 27 Jun 2010 12:56 - 2931 of 6906

Leaders of the group of eight major industrial nations have urged Israel to allow entry of necessary aid to the Gaza Strip that has been under tight siege for four years that led to the death of more than 400 patients as a result of scarcity of medicine and closure of crossings before their travel abroad for treatment.

The G8 leaders said, at the closing statement of their meeting in Canada, that the Israeli siege should not continue in its current form and that more aid should reach its Palestinian inhabitants.

The G8 welcomed Israel's decision to relax certain elements of its blockade on Hamas-controlled Gaza, saying "current arrangements are not sustainable and must be changed."
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