Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

R U disrespecting Spurs?

No, I think they're quite capable of disrespecting themselves without my involvement.

:O) He'll pretend your squelched on the naughty step again hils LOL.

Hilary
Who do you support?

Be careful, if you answer that question.

her husband

Haystack,

Doncha know?

Cyners,

No, he gets enough support. Seriously, I know my place and I can't compete.

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

Hilary its those male genes of yours that are playing up.

Come on come out admit your a man.

Out yourself Hilary I say, Out yourself.

The women on here have all said and identified you as a man.!!

By the way Im a Man Utd supporter, only the best for me.

By Martin Evans, Crime Correspondent
1:34PM BST 09 Sep 2013
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Detective Superintendent Steve Fulcher was suspended almost a year ago over his handling of the investigation into the disappearance of Sian O’Callaghan in Wiltshire in 2011.

The highly experienced officer ignored guidelines set down in the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) about how suspects should be questioned claiming he was acting in the best interests of the victims.

Rather than take suspect Christopher Halliwell to a police station to be questioned in the presence of a lawyer, Det Supt Fulcher subjected him to an “urgent interview” at the scene of where he believed he had taken his victim.

The unorthodox approach resulted in local taxi driver, Halliwell, admitting to not only the murder of Miss O’Callaghan, but also to that of another girl, Becky Godden-Edwards.

Despite showing detectives where both bodies were hidden, the charges relating to Miss Godden-Edwards were thrown out on the grounds that DS Fulcher had failed to follow the correct arrest procedures.

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The officer was also being investigated over alleged inappropriate dealings with the media during the case.

The IPCC ruled that in both areas his actions warranted a case of gross misconduct.

The report stated: “The effect of Det Supt Fulcher’s actions was catastrophic, particularly on the prosecution of Mr Halliwell for the murder of Rebecca [Godden-Edwards].

“Det Supt Fulcher stated had he not proceeded as he did, Rebecca’s remains may never have been found. However it is not possible to determine what may have happened if Mr Halliwell had been immediately conveyed to custody after his arrest and urgent interview by detectives.”

But despite the findings, Miss Godden-Edwards’ mother Karen Edwards, has always backed DS Fulcher’s actions insisting his approach resulted in her finally locating her missing daughter’s remains.

She has since campaigned for a change in the PACE guidelines to prevent a similar situation ever arising again.

IPCC Deputy Chair Rachel Cerfontyne said: "This is a difficult time for all concerned with this case and especially the families and friends of Sian and Becky, especially after all they have already had to endure.

"This investigation has been a highly unusual one, as the majority of facts, in particular in relation to Mr Godden's complaint, are undisputed and already in the public domain.

"We will never know what may have happened if the Pace Codes had been followed.

"However, Detective Superintendent Fulcher's actions were in deliberate breach of Pace and we find that he has a case to answer for gross misconduct.

"Also, Detective Superintendent Fulcher, despite no longer having responsibility for Operation Mayan, and against express orders, went ahead with meetings about the case with journalists from both the BBC and ITV.

"This behaviour is even more extraordinary when set in the context that the trial judge had already considered whether force press conferences given by Detective Superintendent Fulcher were prejudicial to the case against Halliwell.

"We find that he has a case for gross misconduct for this as well and it will now be for Wiltshire Police to decide what action to take and I await their proposals."

A spokesman for the Wiltshire Force said: “We can confirm that we have received a copy of the IPCC’s report.

“We are taking this matter very seriously and we are currently in the process of carefully considering the recommendations made within the report and our subsequent response to the IPCC.

"We will be taking into account the needs of the families whilst deliberating the recommendations.

“Wiltshire Police are continuing to offer welfare support to Det Supt Fulcher throughout this ongoing process. It would be inappropriate for us to comment further at this stage.”

If the Wiltshire force agree with the IPCC findings, Det Supt Fulcher will face a gross misconduct panel which will decide his fate.
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Am I alone in thinking the law is an Ass?

Obama's rogue state tramples over every law it demands others uphold

For 67 years the US has pursued its own interests at the expense of global justice – no wonder people are sceptical now


George Monbiot

The Guardian, Monday 9 September 2013 20.30 BST


You could almost pity these people. For 67 years successive US governments have resisted calls to reform the UN security council. They've defended a system which grants five nations a veto over world affairs, reducing all others to impotent spectators. They have abused the powers and trust with which they have been vested. They have collaborated with the other four permanent members (the UK, Russia, China and France) in a colonial carve-up, through which these nations can pursue their own corrupt interests at the expense of peace and global justice.

Eighty-three times the US has exercised its veto. On 42 of these occasions it has done so to prevent Israel's treatment of the Palestinians being censured. On the last occasion, 130 nations supported the resolution but Barack Obama spiked it. Though veto powers have been used less often since the Soviet Union collapsed in 1991, the US has exercised them 14 times in the interim (in 13 cases to shield Israel), while Russia has used them nine times. Increasingly the permanent members have used the threat of a veto to prevent a resolution being discussed. They have bullied the rest of the world into silence.


More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/09/obama-rogue-state-tramples-every-law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCo6BVPGDh0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEfL11huQxY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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i doubt if i would agree with many articles in the gurniad, but the above is absolutely spot on .....

as it happens, syria looks to be defusing with even the russians openly taking assad to task etc etc ..... fat chance, but in the light of this latest scare, just perhaps we could see some changes in security council protocols (if that's the right word) - but i'm afraid pigs far more likely to fly

Maxk,.

Thanks for the reference to Guardian article.

It points to the thorn in all UN negotiations and especially those in M.E..

I C+P to (GAZA)

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I just wonder, if what Russia has "proposed" and seemingly getting "support" for, from USA, may be the beginning of the unfolding of the "Assad regime".

I don't see Obama as a "war monger" and there does not seem to be a real wish in the USA for military actions of any kind at the moment.

But it would be reasonable to look at the rules of engagement and decision making at the UN.. Especially with the "coming of age" of other countries other than the BIG FIVE.

Cynic,

Post 29139

Do I see signs of improvement, even maturity?


8-)

i hope not!
by the way, please can you revisit your last post and edit it so it makes sense - hard as that may be for you to do :-)

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