goldfinger
- 09 Jun 2005 12:25
Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).
Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.
cheers GF.
cynic
- 10 Sep 2013 16:46
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i'ld vote for that :-)
Fred1new
- 10 Sep 2013 16:52
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Be careful of the tap at the door.
You never know who may be there!
Strangely enough, I once went into a house where the owner showed me a coffin he had bought for himself.
No previous owner.
cynic
- 10 Sep 2013 16:53
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be careful of the tap of the hammer!
MaxK
- 10 Sep 2013 19:52
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Can he sue? And if so, who??
Coronation Street actor Michael Le Vell not guilty of child sex charges
Michael Le Vell, the Coronation Street actor, has been cleared of a string of child sex charges.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10299456/Coronation-Street-actor-Michael-Le-Vell-not-guilty-of-child-sex-charges.html
Haystack
- 10 Sep 2013 20:11
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Who is he going to sue?
The girl is 17 now. Maybe she should be prosecuted. No point in suing her as she probably doesn't have any money. I doubt that he could sue the police. The girl's story did not amount to enough for the CPS, so she came back after a few days and said she remembered a few more assaults. That should have rang alarm bells.
The whole thing stank. I thought he was probably innocent. The assaults went on for years and she had almost no details.
MaxK
- 10 Sep 2013 22:04
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Exactly!
But I suspect he is considerably out of pocket, not to mention his career is fooked.
Surely someone has to account?
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 02:56
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A slap in the teeth for Giddeon. ............
BBC NEWS... Politics.
11 September 2013 Last updated at 00:42
Vince Cable warns against economic complacency
The business secretary is due to speak at a joint government/CBI conference
Lib Dem Cabinet minister Vince Cable is to warn the government against getting complacent over the economy.
It comes two days after Chancellor George Osborne said the UK was "turning a corner" amid signs of recovery.
But Mr Cable is due to say he and fellow ministers "can't rest on our laurels".
In a speech to business leaders he will claim that "a few quarters of good economic data" did not mean the country was out of the danger zone.
The business secretary is expected to say the UK is experiencing the "beginnings of a recovery story", but that it would not become "meaningful" until there was strong and sustained business investment.
Earlier this week the chancellor said there were "tentative signs of a balanced, broad-based and sustainable recovery".
The two coalition ministers have clashed in the past over economic policy.
'Embarrassing slap-down'
In a CBI conference speech at Warwick University, Mr Cable is expected to say: "We can't rest on our laurels.
"The kind of growth we want won't simply emerge of its own volition. In fact, I see a number of dangers. One is complacency, generated by a few quarters of good economic data."
However he is expected to add: "It isn't difficult to see evidence of confidence returning." and will talk of "positive trends in production".
"Taken together with success stories like the car industry and export growth in emerging markets, we have the beginnings of a recovery story," Mr Cable will go on.
"But there are risks, not least the housing market getting out of control. Recovery will not be meaningful until we see strong and sustained business investment, and this... as a share of GDP, is currently the lowest in the G7."
Shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna said Mr Cable had issued an "embarrassing slap-down" to the chancellor.
But the Labour MP added: "It also reminds everyone that you can't trust a word the Lib Dems say.
"Vince Cable has supported the chancellor's policies which choked off the recovery in 2010."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24042555#
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 09:41
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The fiddled fiddled unemployment figures pretend to be better again but look.......
Laura Kuenssberg @ITVLauraK 7m
But again average earnings behind inflation - growing at only 1.1 pc so wages go less far each week.
A further drop in Standard Of Living For Most.
2517GEORGE
- 11 Sep 2013 09:50
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What a limp lettuce millipede was yesterday.
2517
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 10:42
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Well hes not a compulsive liar like Camoron and Osbourne.
In fact I thought he did quite well given the comments and threats made by the unions prior to him addressing the TUC.
I also notice the polls have swung back in labours favour since the speech.
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 10:47
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electionista@electionista3h
UK - YouGov/Sun poll: CON 33%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 11%
skinny
- 11 Sep 2013 10:48
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cynic
- 11 Sep 2013 10:50
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so tell me sticky, would have claimed they were fiddled if (a) "your bunch" were the incumbents or (b) that the unemployment level was declared as worse?
you really can't cherry pick, much as you might like to, and though the numbers may indeed be skewed by the method used, so long as the same system has been used for say the last 12 months, then the trend if arguably not the number is valid
Fred1new
- 11 Sep 2013 10:50
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251,
I thought reading the postings from Hays and Kind and from the media that there was going to chaos and riots at the TUC meeting.
The tory party smear machinery seems to have failed.
The review of party funding, influence, formation of policies and election of leadership of all parties who wish to represent the electorate should have period of revision, this to my mind what the Miliband is attempting to do.
Also, the unions would be sensible to review their possible expectations of policy dictate to a body representative of themselves, but also a body of the voters who they need to form of government.
Perhaps, the party leadership like Miliband is a coming of age and considering its responsibilities.
Review and change within any organisations can be painful
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It would seem that the tory and Lib/Dems parties would benefit from a similar period of reflexion, if they still believe in the form of “representative” or “democratic” form of government, rather than one depending on the dictates of a wealthy insular cabal and wealthy self interested hidden sponsors.
cynic
- 11 Sep 2013 10:54
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as in reflexology?
or did you mean as in narcissistically looking in the mirror?
psst!
did no one tell you that the labour party is similarly dictated to by the unions?
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 10:54
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Unemployment figures - Under David Cameron, Britain's cost of living crisis is not improving, its intensifying - Liam Byrne
11 September 2013
Liam Byrne MP, Labour’s Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, responding to Labour Market Statistics, said:
“Today's headline fall in unemployment is welcome, but what today's figures expose is that while out of touch ministers are boasting, families are battling. They're battling another fall in wages, another rise in youth unemployment and yet another rise in long term unemployment. There is simply not enough work to go round and the proof is a record high in the number of part-time workers looking for full-time jobs.
“Real wages fell yet again by £12 a week; unemployment went up across half of Britain; the youth jobless rate rose by 9,400 and long term unemployment rose yet again. There's now been an incredible rise of 364,000 part time workers looking for full time jobs since the election.
“We can't go on like this. Under David Cameron, Britain's cost of living crisis is not improving, it’s intensifying.
“We need a recovery that benefits everyone, not just a few at the top. That is why Labour wants to help to make work pay by introducing a lower 10p starting rate of tax, paid for by a mansion tax, and to repeat the tax on bank bonuses to pay for a compulsory jobs guarantee for young people.”
cynic
- 11 Sep 2013 10:59
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sticky - trying answering the point i raised instead of wriggling like a millipede
goldfinger
- 11 Sep 2013 11:00
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Fred I think Milly is taking a calm responsible approach to the way Labour are funded.
Im quite pleased with his performance in this area in fact all in all as the polls show although he is less trusted on the economy than Camoron but his trend is upand the gap is closing.
I think Milly is the type who will grow into a position and can see him as the PM of this country at the next election.
One thing for sure Clegg and the liberals are going to have a torrid time going up to the elections. Ms Teather is just the tip of the iceberg in my opinion.
Haystack
- 11 Sep 2013 11:04
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The unions were pretty dismissive of Miliband. The interviews with the union leaders said that Miliband may say that the system of automatic affiliation of members to Labour will stop, but it is not his business. They said that it was an internal union matter and they would do what they wanted.
cynic
- 11 Sep 2013 11:09
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neither side would want to risk a public showdown or even any serious handbag swinging ...... the "tough stuff" will happen behind closed doors