Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays.

What is the current national debt compared now under the tory led coalition?

What has the increase in debt been used for?

If Cameron spent a little more time at home, thinking rather than wandering off to tell other countries how to solve their problems, he would be a little wiser and the UK a little better off.

fred -as i wrote earlier, though findus unsurprisingly chose to ignore ......

though the numbers may indeed be skewed by the method used, so long as the same system has been used for say the last 12 months, then the trend if arguably not the number is valid

Fred
Yes hospitals, schools etc. What Labour have never understood, is that it doesn't matter how worthy the purpose of the spending, you can't have thing that you cannot afford.

I recall the baulk of the NHS money was swallowed up in salaries for the hierachy.
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fred - would you vote for raising taxes, probably significantly? ..... or would still choose to sit on the sidelines and pontificate as usual? :-)

He would vote for not voting.

Cynic.

It depends on how the data is specified and then correlated.

Then it depends on the periods which one is considering.

If redefinition of entities takes place then it depends of the regrouping of the entities.

One of my daughter is an "analyst" in government department and another one in University research dept.

Both are fed up with the slovenly collection of data, and uncorrelated "deductions" being made from that data.

Falsification.

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Honest Meta Analysis is a different thing.

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The government doesn't collect or publish the figures. They are all handled by the ONS, which is an independent body. The ONS is not subject to any interference by the government. If the ONS says that unemployment is falling then it is.

Who defines "employment"?

Cynic, Hays,

If the labour government had not wasted money on the Iraq War, (which we are now seeing the inherited cost of, in financial and ability to influence) we would have been better off.

If we hadn't been involved in a futile war in Afghanistan and dumped earlier the Subs and Aircraft carriers etc..

If instead of flogging off of major "state own" industries they had had their management improved and unions had been sensible then efficiency, costs and income would have been improved.

Yes I would be in favour of rise in taxation if it improves "social standards" and "well-being" and "quality of life" for society as a whole.

Also, if money hadn't been paid to the banks or they the bankers hadn't been bailed out at extortionate levels, there might have been more money in the kitty.
(A failure of uncontrolled or under regulated capitalism.)

Cameron doing a great job at PMQs today. Miliband was limp as usual.

if, if, if and if your aunt had balls she'ld be your uncle

meanwhile
would you vote for raising taxes, probably significantly? ..... or would still choose to sit on the sidelines and pontificate as usual?

saying "i would be in favour" is a typical fred fudge

Maybe somebody who isn't sat on the squelchy step should point out to Fishfinger and Old Bollock Chops that denial isn't a river in Egypt.

Fred how on earth can the ONS count a person doing 1 hours work per week be equal to a person doing 39 hours per week, its one big fiddle and not only are the ONS a fiddle they are leaking figures to Osbourne but yet are supposed to be a seperate entity.

In laymans terms...............

Its like Reuters leaking an RNS to a hedge fund manager 24 hours before the market in general get it at 7.00am.

The three Tory BOYS must be miffed today, at PMqs Milly took fat Dave to the cleaners.

As usual cant ever answer a question and turns his head back to his fellow boot lickers for moral support........ mind you that moral support is getting quieter and quieter as time passes going up to the tory annual bash.

I have NEVER EVER known a PM who has lied and is so arrogant as Camoron.

All it takes is labour to hold on the polls at 33% of the vote and they get a majority in the next parliament.

The Tory back benches know this and are getting very very twitchy.

Perhaphs the grusome twosome Cam and Gid think a sell off of Lloyds before the next election will get them out of jail !!!!!! I DONT THINK SO.

fred and findus - are the pair of you totally unable to read or what?


"It depends on how the data is specified and then correlated"

true, but as i have written twice already, "though the numbers may indeed be skewed by the method used, so long as the same system has been used for say the last 12 months, then the trend if arguably not the number is valid"

Excellent line from Cameron "he promised us raging bull - he gave us chicken run".

Yep skinny but Wavy Davy forgets he gave us his impression of Raging Bull when he shot of his deckchair in Cornwall? flew into parliament with his fists flying over Syria and ended up with a bloody nose and his tail between his legs.

gf
Miliband was hopeless at PMQs.

I found two very interesting pieces of information came out of PMQs.

1. Food bank use multiplied 10 times under Labour.

2. Job Centres were blocked from referring claimants to food banks as it would have been bad pr for the Labour government. That block has been removed, which is possibly why their use has increased.