Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

So how are you two related then?

It looks like The Royal Mail is at last being privatised. Apart from train drivers, it is one of the last bastions of union trouble making.

Yes, we could do with 25 years of Conservative government to rid the country of trade unions once and for all!

Cynic,

The choices you offer seem to be those defined by many of the occupations chosen by psychopaths.

Is this your natural tendency?

Which of course you would resist.

Or would you, if the balance was seemingly in your favour?

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Hays,

Your remark, "It is very difficult to insult me." seems be very true and surprisingly self perceptive of you.

Are you a self made man?

Hairy one,

You hope.

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did i have wonderful parents?
no
did i have bad parents?
no

my parents did what they thought best, as do most (certainly not all), and after that is is very much down to the individual what he does with the hand he has .... and i'm afraid an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds will not accept responsibility for their own actions and similar

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fred - is it "unfair" that i created a business that happens to have worked, at least to a modest extent, and that i draw a salary and dividends considerably in excess of what i pay my employees?

of course it isn't ..... i benefit from the risks i have taken and pressures i have accepted, and conversely, my employees don't have the worries of what happens if the biz goes belly up, taking me with it

"my parents did what they thought best, as do most (certainly not all), and after that is is very much down to the individual what he does with the hand he has .... and i'm afraid an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds will not accept responsibility for their own actions and similar" Agreed.

Ed: But how are you related to H/S then -):

Cynic post 29315 - Very well said..

Cynic,

But they had to put up with you.

Surely, they are worth more than you pay them?

Reward for endeavour is reasonable, if proportional.

I tried to look after my staff, in the hope they would look after me.

I had no complaints, other than from one secretary occasionally asking me, "who has rattled your cage to-day?".

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"i'm afraid an awful lot of people from all sorts of backgrounds will not accept responsibility for their own actions and similar"


Agreed, but that is where "education" comes into play.

I don't mean the 3Rs , that seems a basic necessary in "modern" society or at the least it enables individuals to "expand" themselves more easily.

But part of "self responsibility" is introjected from other at an early age.

Those who don't exhibit these tendencies may not have, or had exposure those who did.

To get change, especially where the parents don't exhibit it, an effort could be built into the early on education "process".

(If you don't know, how this is done, have a look of the parents of those children who are succeeding and copy.)

Generally, by encouragement and reward without condemnation.

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Anyway simpler.

Where is Syria going to be into 12 months time?

(You don't get points for "in the M.E..)

Depends if Syria is liberated ... think Afghanland, Iraq and Libya

fred - i can't remember when/how i learnt about responsibilities/actions, but i don't think directly from my parents and nor consciously, from a young age

however, there were certainly two gems from my father (he always denied it!) that i often talk about ......
you can't be given initiative
making decisions is easy

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Syria
assad will be booted out, but the next bunch will not be much if any better, if not from the outset, then within 5 years

the whole of m/e will remain a tinder box to be played with and manipulated by assorted external parties

i don't expect it to explode, as amis, russians, chinese and the arab world in general know that would be a total disaster

You mean the successes of the "West's" democracy intervention in the dictatorships of other countries and getting rid of WMD and Chemical Weapons of War, but holding on to their own supplies.

Influencing the policies of other countries by example.


UMMMMMMMMMMH,

Funny market.

My tiddlers are up and my larger holdings are down.

Im told Haystack is making it up as he goes how conduct re- bulletin board posts.

Haystack ......the boss here bullshare and Ian keep a very close watch on this thread.

Dont think for one minute you can post anything ........you cannot. Their are limits........


E mailed to me....... Haystack - 12 Sep 2013 14:00 - 29306 of 29320

People on here can contribute anyway that they wish. They can interrupt, make comments, join in conversations whether invited or not. There are no rules here. It is very difficult to insult me. I only regard myself as insulted if I have a good opinion of the person attempting the insult.

As landlord of the thread I wish to inform ALL there are RULES and please all of us lets be civilised and stick to them.

We dont want posters being banned.

Even if we dont agree with others we should allow them their right to post.

Lets be cool.

fred - was 29321 meant for my consumption as it seems to be a non seq?


btw, did anyone watch The Wipers Times last night?

gf
There is no such thing as a landlord of a thread.

Of course the post was not emailed to you. It is quite clear that you read the posters you claim to have filtered. You seem far too vain to miss a post that might mention you.

I've recorded it - is it worth a watch?

cynic
The wipers times was possibly the most interesting, enjoyable bits of viewing seen for a long time. BBC at its best.

yes skinny; it was excellent and without the usual "horror" pix of most progs of those times

stage version of "warhorse" was also brilliant in all sorts of ways

Cynic,

No. just cast into the air.

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I did watch The Wipers Times".

I thought it was a good production and represented WW1 and the detachment and often "superiority" sometimes shown by those who thought they knew better.

Also, related the total incompetence of some of the military elite.

Also, if you look at that period you can see the reasons for the emerging strength and bloody mindedness of the unions in twenties, thirties and carried on post WW2 into 70 and 80s.

Well worth watching and humour took the bitterness out of the situation.

Reminded me of last episode of Black Adder and Memoirs of a Fox-Hunting Man by Siegfried Sassoon.

Pointing out the stupidity of war.

But WW1 did change the structure of the UK.

yes it did, as incidentally did the Black Death, and to a lesser extent, the likes of the Dissolution of the Monasteries and the Civil War

going back to 29321, you are a naughty boy trying to pin "blame" exclusively on the West, and you damn well know it
do i need to expand? .... i'm sure not

btw, what are you holding that is large and expanding?
please don't frighten the horses