cynic
- 20 Oct 2007 12:12
rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.
for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ
for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 07:51
- 2936 of 21973
Wall Street Bailout = $700 Billion
Wall Street Crash = $1 Trillion
Politicians with Prinicpals = Priceless
Strawbs.
cynic
- 30 Sep 2008 07:57
- 2937 of 21973
in this instance, is blind irresponsibility being mislabelled as principal?
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 08:13
- 2938 of 21973
They know they'll be back discussing a new bill if necessary. Markets were going to crash anyway, if not yesterday, at some point. The US and most of the western world owes far more than it can sensibly repay, realism was going to set in eventually. Irresponsible, principaled, it all depends on which side of the fence your sitting, and how history decides to judge. Congress have decided to open the box, and now we'll see what demons lie inside.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
P.S. My original comment was meant as a joke.....
HARRYCAT
- 30 Sep 2008 08:30
- 2939 of 21973
Although the asian market was down, it would seem to be an orderly decline rather than the blood letting expected, so hopefully the FTSE will follow their example.
Randgold about the only stock heavily in the blue, which is to be expected.
cynic
- 30 Sep 2008 08:34
- 2940 of 21973
Japan and HK were down barely 3% o rperhaps a bit less, though I can tell you that at 22:00 last night IG were predicting >6% and Dow was down a further 150 points after hours .... terrifying!
Anyway, Dow is now indicating +50 or thereabouts (a turnaround of 200) and FTSE is only down about 70, having indicated >200 at 22:00 last night ...... Obviously all is very fragile, but at least the jugular has not yet been cut
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 08:42
- 2941 of 21973
The world hasn't fallen in yet then. I think Japan could actually be a good place to put your money right now. The Japanese banks are ultra conservative (after the 1990's mess), and probably won't suffer in the same way Western banks have. Still, any slowdown in the West will affect Asian economies too.
In my opinion...
Strawbs.
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 09:15
- 2942 of 21973
Hmmm. Could be tricky selling the bail out plan now if the markets go back up again. The public will no doubt see it as another Wall Street sham. By the time the cracks start to appear though, the bailout plan will probably be too late.....
In my opinion.
Strawbs.
Guscavalier
- 30 Sep 2008 09:30
- 2943 of 21973
wouldn't be surprised if those sovereign wealth funds are using this opportunity to acquire stock in quality companies for the longer term.
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 09:38
- 2944 of 21973
Or I suppose it could just be a dead cat bounce....
Strawbs.
cynic
- 30 Sep 2008 09:44
- 2945 of 21973
more likely DCB, as assuredly the need for the bailout has not disappeared ...... don't forget that though Dow is currently indicating +100 or so, it fell 700 last night
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 09:47
- 2946 of 21973
I guess everyone was expecting the sky to fall in today, so I guess a bounce of any kind is a little surprising (in the context of Wall Street overnight anyway).
Strawbs.
dealerdear
- 30 Sep 2008 10:29
- 2947 of 21973
Unfortunately can't stay on the SM today but I have now seen it all!
Expected massive crash and here we are up. Extraordinary. DCB possibly but I'm gobsmacked.
How can you trade these markets when they seem to do the exact opposite of logic.
On second thoughts, I'm glad I'm going out. I shall seek medication whilst I'm there ...
HARRYCAT
- 30 Sep 2008 10:52
- 2948 of 21973
DOW now +212. I'm speechless!
Strawbs
- 30 Sep 2008 10:58
- 2949 of 21973
You know what they say. Everyone loves a bargain.....
Still. Todays bargains, tomorrows millstones.....
Strawbs.
stroreysj
- 30 Sep 2008 11:51
- 2950 of 21973
jesus i go away for a day of frolicing in Batam to get over the demise of bb. and come back and the world has caved in. Guys you need to move to Asia...or atleast outside of singapore, HK and Japan as this completely passed me by. Im so pleased i missed it
cynic
- 30 Sep 2008 14:10
- 2951 of 21973
more happy news from US ..... Home prices in July plunged a record 16.3% year over year , according to the S&P Case-Shiller 20-city index, AP reports.
cynic
- 30 Sep 2008 14:35
- 2952 of 21973
a bit more ...... Stocks open higher, with the Dow bouncing back from a record point decline, as investors await the government's next bailout move.
HARRYCAT
- 02 Oct 2008 08:38
- 2953 of 21973
DOW drops 777 points when the bailout plan is rejected. Now that the modified plan has been approved (by those that matter), wouldn't some kind of immediate recovery seem on the cards? BUT DOW futures currently showing -77 !!!
dealerdear
- 02 Oct 2008 08:42
- 2954 of 21973
Think they're worried about House Of Rep. vote on Friday
Strawbs
- 02 Oct 2008 08:42
- 2955 of 21973
It still has to go before the people that rejected it last time. On Friday I believe. The markets will no doubt shift around according to who wants to gamble the most.... e.g. the shorts or the longs. Cash is probably the safest position to be in at the moment.
In my opinion.
Strawbs.