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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Haystack - 17 Sep 2013 14:31 - 29445 of 81564

The problem with UKIP is that they can offer nothing. It is extremely unlikely that UKIP will get a single MP. The Conservatives are the only party that can offer a referendum on EU membership.

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 14:33 - 29446 of 81564

Some tories missed this yesterday...........

electionista‏@electionista16 Sep
UK - Populus poll: CON 33%, LAB 40%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 9% https://twitter.com/PopulusPolls/status/379552449889312768 …ends

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY as Lynton Crosby as acknowledged..........

electionista‏@electionista
UK: @lordashcroft poll in 40 CON seats w/ smallest maj: CON 29%(30% national) LAB 43%(35%) LDEM 8%(12%) UKIP 11%(13%) ....ends Lib Dems and UKIP migrating to labour. Only just begun aswel.

Im smiling, Im grinning like a Cheshire Cat.

Haystack - 17 Sep 2013 14:41 - 29447 of 81564

UKIP's support is spread evenly across the UK. The Libs support has always been concentrated in a small number of constituencies. The result will be UKIP gaining no MPs and the Libs retaining most of their seats with a few marginal losses. I have seen the same situation in many UK elections. The Libs do well with a low percentage, but do little better when their percentage increases. UKIP is well below a breakthrough percentage because they have no grassroots heartland as do the other three parties.

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 14:50 - 29448 of 81564

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MaxK - 17 Sep 2013 15:11 - 29449 of 81564

The fun would start when/if the tories ditch Cameroon and embrace ukip, or ukip policies.

Nu lab/dims is a vote for more of the same.

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 15:19 - 29450 of 81564

Ditch Camoron and Osbourne and they wouldnt need UKIP imo Max.

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 15:20 - 29451 of 81564

Think Cable has got it right with his proposal to shift tax from income to assets.

cynic - 17 Sep 2013 15:33 - 29452 of 81564

so is the proposal to hammer shares over and above CGT and perhaps while you still own them?
where would pension funds then be expected to invest?
what about buy-to-let property, which fulfils a social need and on which CGT would in any case also be applicable once sold?

sounds to me like a recipe for taxing the prudent

MaxK - 17 Sep 2013 15:39 - 29453 of 81564

Will any tax on assets include trust funds?


lol

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 15:40 - 29454 of 81564

Max Leaked Memo went out last night from the Lib/Dems saying that anyone with over £50 grand income annualy was rich and was a tax target.

Cant remember if it was Newsnight or Sky News 'what the papers say'.

skinny - 17 Sep 2013 15:43 - 29455 of 81564

GF - you only have to google it - its every where - so it must be true! :-)

Revealed: Secret Lib Dem plan to increase tax for millions on over £50,000 hidden in email to ministers (which also reminds them they are supposed to be cheerful)


cynic - 17 Sep 2013 15:53 - 29456 of 81564

even a bus driver earns £50k!

trust funds
i'm not an accountant or anything similar, but i believe most would warn you off them as the rules tend to change radically every 5/10 years.
however, i believe assets held in pension funds are currently IHT exempt

MaxK - 17 Sep 2013 15:53 - 29457 of 81564

The dim/libs can propose whatever they want, they are doomed anyway.




Jeremy Clarkson threatens to stand against Nick Clegg

If Ed Miliband was ever worried by Jeremy Clarkson’s threat to stand against him at the next election, he can breathe a sigh of relief.

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By Rosa Silverman
8:56AM BST 17 Sep 2013


The Top Gear host has seemingly changed his mind about running for the Labour leader’s Doncaster seat and is instead threatening to take on Nick Clegg.

Mr Clarkson insisted he had “meant Sheffield Hallam” when he said he would stand as an independent candidate in Doncaster, his home town in South Yorkshire.

He told The Sun: "I was a bit drunk when I suggested I would stand as an independent candidate in Doncaster. I meant Sheffield Hallam."

He already has one supporter on side, the London Mayor Boris Johnson, who wrote in the Telegraph this week: “I see that my old chum Jeremy Clarkson is thinking of standing against Ed Miliband in Doncaster.

“Right idea, Jezza – wrong seat. I hope fervently that the great man can be persuaded to stand against Cleggers in Sheffield, where his majority (unlike Ed’s) is very frail indeed.


more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/top-gear/10314359/Jeremy-Clarkson-threatens-to-stand-against-Nick-Clegg.html

MaxK - 17 Sep 2013 16:05 - 29458 of 81564

re the iht thingy.

I read somewhere that Cameroon has a country pile which is in a trust, all the benefits without the tax.

cynic - 17 Sep 2013 16:20 - 29459 of 81564

perhaps, but if set up many years ago, the rules applying may be different from today ..... anyway, they're hardly "sneaky" or "aggressive" in avoidance terms

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 16:22 - 29460 of 81564

Yep cheers skinny thats the one.

Saw it on TV last night.

Been out fishing this morning so not seen it in the press.

The Lib Dems according to VINCEY BOY though are heading for a migration to asset taxes which will hurt older people and pensioners more.

Im all in favour of taxing foreigners here who are asset rich and are soley here to take advantage of our tax laws on property. Russian and Chinese billionaires who have property after property empty in London (kensington) but working families like teachers and nurses cant afford to live in most of London.

Their has to be a re-balance.

goldfinger - 17 Sep 2013 16:27 - 29461 of 81564

Trust Funds would be target ...yes.

Especially Osbournes.

Also Winnifroths were his compo from his last employment was put into one to protect him against legal charges against him. In other words he knew if he lost this present court battle with Sefton Resources if SER won, they couldnt get any legal costs from him as it is tucked up in a trust.

Margaret Hodge labour has a cheek, she has one set up aswel.

doodlebug4 - 17 Sep 2013 16:36 - 29462 of 81564

Vince Cable is totally up his own exhaust pipe and will say anything to try and grab headline news. Obnoxious character, thank God he didn't get the job as Chancellor when the coalition was formed.

aldwickk - 17 Sep 2013 16:41 - 29463 of 81564

What are you complaning about , his old Labour dressed as Lib/dem

cynic - 17 Sep 2013 16:43 - 29464 of 81564

Im all in favour of taxing foreigners here who are asset rich
and just how would you determine fell into that bracket and how would you propose to tax them to the exclusion of others?
you're starting to sound like Village Idiot
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