Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Interesting read..............................


David Cameron’s Conservatives are running scared of UKIP
SEPTEMBER 20, 2013 9:10 AM
Author:

John Spellar

UKIP will spend their Conference this weekend trying to pose as a mainstream political party with mass appeal. As well as hearing from Nigel Farage, their leader, there’ll no doubt be an appearance from Godfrey Bloom, their resident cartoon sexist. It’s unlikely that there will be appearances for their two former MEPs who have been jailed for fraud. And they probably won’t showcase the various councillors and candidates who have been exposed in the press as having far-right views.

If you listen to their leader, UKIP are a party of straight talkers with credible, mainstream policies which, when delivered with a dash of bluff honesty, are the key to a plan to target ordinary working people. But the reality is quite different. The truth is that UKIP don’t want to communicate the truth about their policies. They don’t share your values – in reality they’re even more right-wing than the Tories. At the last election they ran on a platform of cutting public services even deeper and faster than the Tories, on cutting taxes for the wealthiest and on taking billions out of the NHS, subsidising the better off to go private. They want to abolish your right to parental leave and maternity pay. Bizarrely, their manifesto included a policy of paying the same level of benefits to absolutely everyone – even people who refuse to look for a job.

Far from being the breath of fresh air driven by idealistic beliefs that they’d like us to think, UKIP are no strangers to cynical policy u-turns, constantly chopping and changing for narrow political advantage. For instance, at the last election they backed high speed rail but now, aware of some Tories’ discomfort about the route, they have flip-flopped to explicit opposition to the scheme.

Despite their policies, though, UKIP are having an influence – on the Conservatives. If you don’t believe me, listen to David Cameron. In 2006, as a fresh-faced young leader, he described UKIP as “a bunch of, well, fruitcakes and loonies and closet racists, basically”. This year, though, he changed his tune. After UKIP gained 139 seats, mostly from the Conservatives, in this year’s council elections Cameron was invited to repeat the insult. He refused, saying “it is no good insulting a political party that people have chosen to vote for”.

It’s one more piece of evidence that David Cameron’s Conservatives are running scared of UKIP. In the early stages of his leadership of the Conservatives, David Cameron tried to demonstrate that he and his party had changed. He hugged huskies, hugged hoodies, asked people to “Vote blue, go green” and criticised his party for “banging on about Europe”.

But he failed to take his party with him. Between 2005 and 2010 the Conservatives lost 75,000 members, and the decline has continued in Government – figures revealed by the party this week showed that membership has almost halved since David Cameron became leader. As the Conservative Party’s membership has declined, UKIP’s has risen – and UKIP’s appeal to former Tory voters threatens Conservative prospects at the next election.

David Cameron has started responding to the UKIP threat, changing his language and his policies and moving to the right. Not only on Europe, where pressure from UKIP and his own backbenchers has forced him to make concessions, but on policy after policy David Cameron has moved the Conservatives onto UKIP’s ground. Sometimes – as on the notorious “Go home or face arrest” anti-immigrant van – even Nigel Farage has attacked them as “nasty”.

With Conservative backbenchers demanding that Cameron go even further, with an electoral pact or even a coalition with UKIP, it’s clear that many Conservatives’ sympathies lie with Nigel Farage’s party. As the Conservative Party drifts to the right, David Cameron weakly tags along in its wake.

can't be bothered to read through all today's verbiage, but i really dislike all the periodic political smear, this time aimed at farage ..... that's not cricket!

Barclays Bank computer theft: Eight held over £1.3m haul

Eight men have been arrested in connection with a £1.3m theft by gang who took control of a Barclays Bank computer.

The money was transferred from the branch in Swiss Cottage in north London in April, a Met Police spokesman said.

Searches are being carried out at addresses across London where property including cash, jewellery, drugs and credit cards have been seized.

The men, aged between 24 and 47, were arrested on Thursday and Friday.

Following the report of the theft, police found a "keyboard video mouse" (KVM) switch attached to one of the branch's computers.

It had had been placed there by a man purporting to be an IT engineer the day before the theft on 5 April

Update: Labour lead at 1
by YouGov in Politics
Fri September 20, 6 a.m. BST

Latest YouGov / The Sun results 19th September - Con 34%, Lab 35%, LD 11%, UKIP 11%;

I think garbage should be superimposed over the cabbage and applied to the next tory conference.

Garbage in and Garbage out will be the appropriate banner for the next tory conference with the theme song "we will all sink together", which, of course, will be arranged by head "office" and sang rousingly a under Dave's baton.

I do hope somebody asks Cameron about his "successful" mismanagement of the "Syria vote" and his ability to plan an invasion of another country, when he is too incompetent to manage his "owned" party.




Strikes me Nigel coming up on the back of UKIP is winning up the straight against a weakened Dave, who appears to be without Rebecca's pony, which was trained by the Murdoch stables.



Will the Stalker Borisconi be there?

Boris will be there...after the election, no fool him.

Not a fool, but what is he?

a very clever barrister by training if i recollect correctly

Not a barrister. He was a journalist and then an MP. He read classics at Oxford.

Is that the new way of describing him?

I hear Dave and George (the heir apparent) define him slightly differently.

i gave you the sensible answer :-)

as an mp, i'ld assuredly vote for boris, but i really don't see him as a party leader let alone pm
much as i and many others enjoy boris's public persona, i think he would have a spot of bother being taken uber-seriously by other foreign leaders ...... do you think (for example) that the swedes, germans and dutch would even start to understand his humour, let alone the russkies and chinese

He could be the Prime Minister without being an MP. It is not a legal requirement. There have been PMs who were in the House of Lords. He wouldn't be able to do PM's questions.

Well Cameron has set a precedent by not answering questions at PMQs time.

Seems common practice.

Do you think they understand Cameroon?

i'll leave you guys to your customary stupid ping-pong ...... i find it very dull

You will have to find a small corner and . with yourself.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24171077

http://shaphan.typepad.com/blog/2006/05/questions_about.html


That was written in 2006 , its now front page news in the Express today.



http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/robin-cook-revealed-falsehood-of-al.html

Conspiracy theories are great fun and the more idiotic the better. Of course the US did not land on the Moon, MM was killed by the Kennedys, Princess Di was killed by HRH, there are aliens living amongst us, people are constantly being abducted by aliens, god exists .....