for more information about stanelco click on the links.

driver's research page link
http://www.moneyam.com/InvestorsRoom/posts.php?tid=7681#lastread
website link
http://www.stanelco.co.uk/index.htm

Overgrowth ... opposite applies to rampers.

Insider is acting alone as far as I can tell so who are "the pack" ?

Dil - I agree that rampers can also work in packs and I've seen evidence of this on other boards from posts earlier in the year - hence my warning to a poster earlier in the week here who was seeking opinions on wildly optimistic "forecasts" which had been made by other BB posters (one of which was "8 soon...." I seem to recall).

Most of the posters on the moneyam boards have been around a long time and that shows that they are serious investors and not here today/gone tomorrow rampers or de-rampers. There is one exception I can think of - SueHelen (the great cut and paste ramper also known as Optimist23 on advfn) admitted that he only bought into companies with good potential and sold as soon as the share price doubled. However even SueHelen's ramping was not executed in the same malicious manner as insiderinsider's blatant de-ramping - he presented all the facts about a company (very well researched), told you his exit strategy and it was up to you whether you ignored the tip, followed the tactic to try and double you money or satisfied yourself that the company in question warranted further research and a longer term investment.

insider is so quick at cutting and pasting exactly the same comments even down to the pseudo complimentary comment "you guys could get William Hague elected PM" all over the other boards, then it's not inconceivable that he's sharing the "insiderinsider" log-ons with his city chums and they're all sipping Bolly and laughing like crazy as they Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V all over the place, in eager anticipation of honest folks being frightened into giving them a good proportion of their savings.

Beware in believing anything he says - he has already been reported several times today to advfn as a spammer because his constant deramping of SEO on other boards such as the EVS board is really hacking off folks whose primary interest is EVS and not SEO.

..Mes amities / lf insider x2 was here to geniually " help and assist us in our respective investment strategies he would not play silly mindgames more befitting a child of 12.{ Sorry to kids of 12 }. l mean along he comes,completely out of the blue, having made abolutely no prior contribution to this thread whatsoever, and suddenly without warning, repetitively bombarded it with highly contencious inflamatory comments which he KNEW would attract lively debate. You knew that much didnt u insider x2 . BUT it was the urgency of your postings which initially interested me and eventually revealed your true agenda/s. .As it turns out lnsider x2t your posts get the most simplest and basic of facts either quite wrong { perhaps copied wrong - for perhaps therin - meaning SEO - was not your primary target, but undoubtadly it was secondary in your thoughts.A real double whammy presented itself to you i suspect. Quite perversely , you see, Simon C. in his recent note to clients made identical errors; and that cannot be accredited to co-incidence.Neither can the fact that he made great play of Ultrasonics as being the new player on the block and that SEO would be outdated before its s exclusivity deal with Asda allowed it to be up for grabs. .And also in the process you have insulted the integrity of a number of people who in a relatively short period of time i happen to have grown quite fond . Now while i agree with you that shorters cant exist without tipsters/rampers, traders , mms ect ect do you really entertain the bizzarre notion that we have the time to be in league to commit collective ramping or something ? GROW UP !!! & BEHAVE ! lt is merely a board of consensus logics > Our only similarity being we are thrown together by the tremendous potential of this little gem called SEO. Did you think we would prove delluded amateur naive investors.!Do you imagine we sit in our respective homes and and hang on your every word and worry our mass conspiracy has been foiled .? . As it happens i was clever ( quite lucky morelike ) to have bought a shedfull of these @4.75 based puerly on sudden, persistent and heavy support and then stupid enough to sell them at 6.75p ( what a complete d*ck ); only to rebuy them @8.75 and not content with making a fool of myself once, i sold again @ 18p only to rebuy @ 18.2 . .l conceed i have made considerable gains along the way but far far from sitting on a massive cushion as you are suggesting, i happen to be have a holding @ 18.2. . My story is that simple .And yours ? ....Juste whas da deal wit u mister ?? Now elementary logic sreams at me your either sitting massively short OR are continually besmalling SEO in order to promote what is the real reasoning behind your mail. Ultrasonics ? Yes ? .ARE U taking the p*ss mate ? SEO s product is NEW. Ultrasonics products have been around since the late 8os. .There are a number of companies specializing in ultrasonics but as they will ALL freely admit it is unbeatable in given specialist environments but cannot even seal certain materials and performs badly at others and NEEDS a coating or laminating .Deals in ultrasonics are aiming @ niche markets despite your claims . l cant help but observe the manner in which you irritatingly say at the end of each of your mails words to the effect that you are leaving us a mere morsel of information to mull over but if we read your next mail we will be treated to something of quite breathtaking proportions.,,,and blah blah So whats the deal ? Cut the bullsh*t and tell us what you have intended to tell us all along . Namely the company whose tec u have dreampt up that betters RF sealing . Sonitek ? Bransons ? Dukane ? On one of those i presume you are long . On that basis i think you had better go back to the drawing board .Thats a bad move. Excellent write up on SEO dated 8th April in "Plastics and Rubber weekly" by Christopher Cundy. Comparing ultrasonics to RF tec is like comparing saling ships dependable on the weather to Liners powered by Rolls Royce engines. ..l only ask in order, of course, to "help" those of us who need protecting from ourselves . .....@+ a' tout a l'heure--en vous remerciant a' l'advance pour votre aide ,,hehe lol a/b.. J

It remains a fact that SEO has been ramped on jam tomorrow - even when their own RNSs cannot confirm one contract that is presently in effect - Asda as you know is not in effect as yet pending further trials - the RNS is very loose and vague and with the most bullish of number crunching for the Asda deal you can get perhaps 13p per share value on a very high forward PE. If you can post any confirmed facts of orders (placed - in effect and paid) and revenue for SEO please do - I will read it for sure - but there just is not any. You can talk about tomorrow all you like - it never comes - and so far - there is no order for SEO - which should be running at around the 4p mark at the moment - so lets have some jam tomorrow and Asda and say with jam added - its 13p - you are living in dreamland if you think its worth over that - and if Asda gets further delayed this could well go back to its 4p level.

Insiderinside picks a weekend to spam these threads knowing full well that the bb's are not being moderrated over the weekend.

Bonne matins Roly/..... lsnt this insider x2 the limit in patience ? : Please do tell us of these "Furthur delays" with Asda of which you talk. Utter twaddle. There have been no initial let alone furthur delays of which to even speak. . Everything is running according perfectly to schedule as we were told by the company .lf anything SEO have been nothing but responsible and extremely conservative in RNS after RNS and i fully anticipate from what all related parties are saying that a furthur RNS will be issued to the market before the end of April reg the deal with Adsa . .Hopefully long before then you will have gone along with your inane comments. l mean are you even aware of the number of major players in the manufacturers and producers of both raw meats and pre cooked meals, who compelled by market forces have expressed an interest in SEO s lidding TECH . When u ponder over such numbers in that over 13,456,921,500 ready made meals require sealing in an industry worth more than 12 billion the mind boggles over such volume. . ,,,, Also everything you say is a mere regurgatation of your previous posting.TRY answering some of the questions posed to you !!! TRY starting with the advantages of ultrasonics.There are none except with fabrics and select few items it proved quicker ..But some plastics need extra coatings or laminates which adds to cost And as it happens COST is the main variable here . ..!!! Now why would engineers from the USA bother to travel to the UK to familiarise themselves with RF tec Ohh why do i bother ...,,,Ohh juste start somewhere apart from the fact tht we are all domiciled in dreamland because you . You are seriously beggining to piss me right off ,,@+ J ,,,,,,

great find , og.

IGNORE THEM ...learn how professional Bashers are paid: When you REPLY to Bashers you give them an opportunity to earn appox. 5-7 dollars.

i'm bored of him . di, baza, i think you are right.

tfc, you are wasting your time trying to have a reasoned debate with this tit.

oh and morning all......

I said this way back ,IGNORE HIM!! i think ill stay off this thread now as its just the same old thing ,why anyone answers him i don't know ...
I shall be keeping a nice holding in SEO though.. and i look forward to reading peoples views on the other threads...JB...

i agree , jimmy. my mistake. i wrongly thought it was possible to have a reasoned debate . my bad.

dil, maybe the pack will emerge next week?
driver, i bought pcm many moons ago . i have basically put them away and hope that in fifty years time they might climb back to what i paid for them.:)

Insider is now very boring. He keeps repeating the same points and ignores all objective comments. When he labours the point he starts to become irelavent and its best that we all just ignore him and carry on with life as we know it!

Likewise J: l stand as guilty as Bos in my assumption that this serial remedial pest was sane . l wasnt around on Friday and had no oppertunity to read his mails until late yesterday afternoon .,,,,,,,,,Obviously in knowing what i know now he has been squelched,,,,

I would suggest as background research the web site www.freepatentsonline.com

If you do a search for Stanelco you can get 5 patents and interesting to read what they really are.

Then do some searches for RF Sealing, Ultrasonic sealing, tray lidding - wow - thousands of patents.

Quite surprising that SEO have only 5 in the search results - the lack of them suggests that either someone else has patented better and before - or if they have seriously lacked initiative - with such limited patenting it will be very easy to get around - or being presently got around by others - more questions.

motion forwarded to ignore the joker. seconded by me. all those in favour , say "aye"....:)

Nice one thats settled then,back to a constructive thread , ill be joining you all for that drink this year.Cheers guys and girls..JB...AYE!!!!

,,,,A most definitive "AYE",,,,,> to both our celebrations drinkies ,,,and to simply ignoring insider x2 ,,,Yes , he with the brains of a chocolate frog @+ J

AYE!

An "aye" from me - and he has now been squelched. Insiderinsider is now in nevernever land



Baza

Bos - AYE - I've had him squelched since soon after he started.

OG - nice post on Bashers - I must say, here and on other "bashed" stocks, I have previously taken comfort from the fact that bashing only really works well with a fundamentally good stock - you go short, then bash it - the SP falls, you buy to cover plus some extra - the stock rises again and you make on the extra on the way upn as well. There is always the expectation that bashers only want to lower the price temporarily. Besides, poor stocks rarely get high enough to be worth bashing down again.

So I take it as a complement to SEO that insiderX2 has seen fit to lavish his attentions on us. BTW I'm thinking if changing my name to upsiderX10bagger.

SD

I fail to see why anyone can see any upside - the Asda news was factored in with the rise to the 13p to 18p range - even though it should have only risen to 13p (with the frightening thing being that the deal is still not on as its been delayed past the initial 60 days for more trials). Terrible rumours about Walmart - totally false and with no fact to back it up - retained the price at 18p - and then solid spin RNSs about installations engineers for the USA have pushed it up to above 20p. So what ? So IF the Asda deal is confirmed - then the price at 13p is ok for a very high forward PE - and should miracles happen and lets pretend Walmart come in too - its safe at 18p - so what does anyone think is going to move this up (apart from pure lies and ramping).

If you were to utilise this Basher argument (even though it is totally false) - lets talk about rampers - why are they trying to convince you the price is going up - they want to help you make money ? They are just being so nice as to help the world make money ? From their argument no one would help point out lies and negative opinions (call that FACT) - without a hidden agenda - then why are they blatently telling rampy lies - surely they would keep this secret and just keep buying every month for themselves - oh - sorry - we have to remember a thread only gets really rampy when the actual news and rumour is factored in.

These rampers work on one principle - BUY ON RUMOUR - SELL ON THE REAL NEWS - so they buy - then start rumours and ramps - then sell - and screw everyone still holding once they have sold theirs for fat profits.