starting this thread, which i hope will be short-lived, to keep the board up to date with latest reports gleaned from the net

can one have a plan for peace when "we" are currently only peripherally involved and there is perhaps even less certainty than usual?

Any plan for peace assumes a knowledge of who and what the rebels represent. I hope there is at least some understanding of that particular aspect.

Cynic,

Before responding, sometimes it would be beneficial to engage your brain.

I didn't say Libya was a friend of Israel's, but check the Arab league and see who accepted the Israel as a state.

Check the relationship of the previous Egyptian administration,

Check relationship with Saudi Arabia and some of Syria's "actions".

Sarkowsy and Cameron led the charge, although they had not considered doing so, until I think they thought it politically advantageous and out of self aggrandisement.

I thought many of their early statements likely to entrench Gaddafi
and increase the likely bloodshed.

I believe Cameron is sometimes spokesman for Britain, but would be better sticking to his salesman role.

Hays.

In one way religion has little to do with the current "conflict" in Libya, but there are many in the ME, who will argue that any "Western" intervention is the beginning of a new crusade.

Especially, if it suits their purpose. Reality is not considered useful sometimes.

That is part of the problem.

as i have said several times, israel is a total sideshow in this scene

you are welcome to your view of the current uk gov't, even if what you tend to state as fact is rather removed from same ..... potentially politically advantageous? .... quite possibly, but that is what all politics are about .... self-aggrandisement? .... i don't buy that except arguably in general political terms, and if that is the case, then the rest of parliament applauded cameron's stance anyway

At the moment Israel is a side issue.

But I bet Israel is looking on with interest

Edit.

so will south africa

And Capello plus the Jew, Drogba.

Is Drogba a jew, I thought he was black.

so was sammy davis junior! .... there's also coptic jews from ethiopia

Was Sammy a jew I thought he was black

Falashas
Indian Jews
Chinese Jews
And, really bad news for you, hay parrot, even pregnant Jews

i thought SJ was born jewish, but apparently he converted .....and by the way, don't forget that one of the largest jewish populations used to be found in iran (mesopotamia)

What larger than New York

There were about 2 million across Iran and the Arab world, most of whom were forced to flee. Most wanted to stay in the lands of their birth but were forced out.
Unlike the Arabs living in the UN mandated nation of Israel who left because the Arab nations told them to get out of the way before they invaded Israel and wiped it off the face of the earth.

The worldwide Jewish population is 13.3 million Jews. Jewish population growth worldwide is close to zero percent. From 2000 to 2001 it rose 0.3%, compared to worldwide population growth of 1.4%.

In 2001, 8.3 million Jews lived in the Diaspora and 4.9 million lived in Israel. Just about half of the worlds Jews reside in the Americas, with about 46 percent in North America. (top)

Approximately 37% of worldwide Jewry lives in Israel. Israel's Jewish population rose by 1.6% the past year, while the Diaspora population dropped by 0.5%.

Europe, including the Asian territories of the Russian Republic and Turkey, accounts for about 12 percent of the total. Fewer than 2 percent of the worlds Jews live in Africa and Oceania.

Metropolitan Tel Aviv, with 2.5 million Jews, is the world's largest Jewish city. It is followed by New York, with 1.9 million, Haifa 655,000, Los Angeles 621,000, Jerusalem 570,000, and southeast Florida 514,000.

In 2001, 8 countries had a Jewish population of 100,000 or more; another 5 countries had 50,000 or more. There is not a single Diaspora country where Jews amounted to 2.5 percent of the total population. Only 3 Diaspora countries had more than 1 percent. Gibraltar (24.0 per 1000), United States (20.1), Canada (11.9), France (8.8), Uruguay (6.7), Argentina (5.3), Hungary (5.2), and Australia (5.1)[1] had the highest ratios.

Where is Iran pedantic. More bullshit from him.

"Where is Iran pedantic. More bullshit from him. "

Think about it............

you're very stupidly getting close to calling me a liar, as did MRSI aka Cielo - a damnfool thing to do

fact
in 1979 there were approx 80,000 jews living in iran and was (then) the largest concentration of jews in m/e outside israel

If you say so Mr pedantic. By the way here is the correct way to spell Iran, not iran

I'm still trying to work out the Billy Walker angle, always thought he was Annie Walkers son?

i do say so - actually, i much prefer persia as a nomenclature which resonates with its very long and interesting history and culture