Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Sorry do not mean to keep picking on the police force.

No worries dc, used to be a police officer, but I'm alright now :O)

Police pension reform - Looks like it will change .

However, we have to acknowledge that people are living much longer and we need reform to make public service pensions sustainable

We believe there is a strong case for reform of pensions across the public services. Police pensions, like others in the public service, will be based on a career average (CARE) scheme model in the future.

The current final salary police pension schemes will close from April 2015, with future accrual based on the new CARE model. Under the new arrangements, the Normal Pension Age for police officers will increase to age 60, compared to a Normal Pension Age for most public servants linked to state pension age (planned to rise in stages to 68).

However, there will also be protection for those officers closest to retirement, who will be entitled to remain in their current police pension scheme beyond 2015. This will depend on the age and length of service of each officer.
Why the government is reforming public service pensions

The government is working to make public service pensions fairer and more sustainable over the long term. Lord Hutton, in his independent review of public service pensions, concluded that ‘current scheme designs are not sufficiently robust to ensure the sustainability of public service pensions’, and that change is needed to ‘make public service pension schemes simpler and more transparent, and fairer to those on low and moderate earnings’.

Final salary schemes mean that ‘high fliers’ receive almost twice as much pension for every £100 of their contributions than people on ‘flat’ careers. The government does not consider it right that lower paid employees should subsidise the pension entitlement of more highly paid staff. The government is therefore proposing a ‘career average’ scheme, where every year of your salary will count towards your pension, rather than just the last few years.




https://www.gov.uk/police-pension-reform

Not in these times Fred. Too many workers are under valued. You are not a worker, so have lost touch with the working environment as like you are not a voter. :-))

Will the ‘career average’ scheme apply to MP's?

DC,

I walk around with my open and I also have children all close to fifty years of age, as well as having other friends of my children’s age.

I have to a reasonable degree and an understanding of their work, responsibilities and the pressures the conditions they work under.

Also, I recognise I have been lucky for the majority of myself and not directly dependant on the state for survival.

However, I have a feeling that you are in touch with yourself, but that you are out of touch with the “needs” of others.

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Also, although "capitalism" and "market driven economic" theories have been useful and still have their uses, there is a limit to how long one can expect to produce a “stable improving” society based on raising true economic growth.

Working hours for the majority of the Western World have been reduced during the last century and that trend will continue to be so.

Castigating a part of a society to come up to outmoded right winged expectations does little to address the “problems” of necessary “employment” or “work”.

It seems to me, that there comes a time when “production” will have to be related to the “needs” of a society and the produce of a society has to be distributed more equitably.

Look at the junk which surrounds you and which are periodically thrown out. They are the unneeded products and part of a rising economy.

The value of wealth is that it oils a society and its economy.

It would be nice to see a reorganization of political ideology to account for “work” changes in society which are going to occur due to new technologies and computerization.

Perhaps, work expansion work opportunities may occur in “servicing of the wealth fare of society” as whole.

The cost and remuneration for doing that "work" will be borne by society as a whole.

"Will the ‘career average’ scheme apply to MP's?"

No, they will have ro rely on their trust funds.

''However, I have a feeling that you are in touch with yourself, but that you are out of touch with the “needs” of others''.

Fred, if you are talking about the pensions I have been on about the country unable to sustain them. Would you not think I am fully in touch with the ''needs of others''.
Along with Labour running up huge debts/bankers. Its the future generations as said before I care about. Sorry what are you going on about ?

PS your education you keep going on about, has not helped in some of the daft going on stupid comments that you make.

More crap policies from Miliband. He wants the minimum wage raised, but only in certain areas of work. A cleaner working for a bank would get paid more than a cleaner working for a different business. How does he think he will administer that one.

Carry on Ed lets have a few more. lol What a vote winner. The Cons must be worried now. :-))

Labour’s squalid past haunts the Two Eds

Yesterday, the Two Eds remained silent, as they worked on critical speeches to next week's Labour conference.

We trust that in those speeches they will reveal just how closely they were involved in McBride's degrading activities.

If not, can they really expect voters to trust them with this country's future, when so many disturbing questions remain about Labour's – and their own – squalid past


Also

Passport giveaway


Today we reveal how, since 2000, British citizenship has been granted to two million immigrants – giving them full access to benefits, housing and the right to vote in General Elections.


While astonishing, the number of passports given out is the inevitable legacy of Labour's deliberate policy of mass immigration.


Shamefully, they never sought any public mandate for this open door policy, which has changed Britain for ever. Indeed, anyone questioning this strategy was dismissed as a bigot as Labour set out to increase its own voter base and, in the words of one adviser, 'rub the Right's nose in diversity'.


But what is most unforgivable is that at no stage did ministers consider whether British society would be able to absorb so many people, many of whom spoke no English, in such a short period of time.


Nor, unbelievably, did they bother to build the houses, schools, roads or hospitals required to cope.


The result is a small island buckling under the weight of the largest, most cynically-planned wave of immigration in history.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/columnists/article-2427657/DAILY-MAIL-COMMENT-Labours-squalid-past-haunts-Two-Eds.html

If this is true , am begining to agree with what TANKER as been saying

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071221232108AAppsxu

But is it true

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/truth-about-thighing-mufakhathat-canard.html

The BNP are on the march.

I hope you have ordered you brown skirts.

Forget brown shirts, you aint seen nothing yet:

read the link provided here:

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Warning There's 3 hours of scrolling down. lol

http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

Apologies.

BNP and UKIP are on the march.

I hope you have ordered you brown skirts.

where too? :-))

Cheers dc, forgot to to put the link in the thingy.

btw, the divil is in the detail dc.

I'm still reading it, I will let you know in the morning. lol