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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

dreamcatcher - 21 Sep 2013 23:03 - 29734 of 81564

I'm still reading it, I will let you know in the morning. lol

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 09:25 - 29735 of 81564

Its getting worse, carry on Ed. How an earth are you going to over see all these absurd policies. Ed looking more daft by the hour.

Labour: UK Apprentice For Each Foreign Worker
Sky NewsBy Jon Craig, Chief Political Correspondent | Sky News – 26 minutes ago.

Ed Miliband has launched a Labour fightback after a difficult summer - with policy pledges on the economy and immigration.

The party leader announced plans to increase fines for employers who fail to pay the minimum wage and force bosses to train an apprentice if they hire a foreign worker.

The moves come on the opening day of Labour’s conference in Brighton, at which the party will attempt to spell out a series of policies which appeal to voters.

The conference begins with the party’s high command reeling over the damaging revelations of plots, smears and feuds in the memoirs of Gordon Brown’s spin doctor Damian McBride.

It also follows a summer in which senior party figures were accused of being invisible and a gradual shrinking of Labour’s opinion poll lead over the Conservatives.

Senior Labour figures claim the new policy announcements signal a new approach on the economy and a new approach on immigration.

In an interview with the Sunday Mirror, Mr Miliband said the Labour Party was "changing under my leadership" and had "learned lessons from the past".

He said: "I want a high wage British economy, not a low wage brutish economy. We've got plans to make that happen, to drive up skills.

"So we are going to say to any firm that wants to bring in a foreign worker that they also have to train up someone who is a local worker, training up the next generation.

"We think that can create up to 125,000 new apprenticeships over the course of five years and that is a massive boost for skills for our young people."

Mr Miliband said the tenfold increase in fines for the minimum wage would "stop the exploitation which undercuts workers that are already here".

He said: "At the moment the maximum fine is £5,000. If you do flytipping the maximum fine is £50,000.

"So we are going to say: maximum fine £50,000 for employers who systematically abuse the minimum wage.

"We are going to take action in the care sector where up to 220,0000 are not being paid the minimum wage, that's a third of the workforce."

He added: "We are going to stop that exploitation, we are going to drive up skills and that's the way to make our economy work for working people in Britain."

In an interview with The Observer, Mr Miliband said he complained about Mr McBride's behaviour to Mr Brown.

"I complained to Gordon about what Damian was up to," he said. "I was worried by him and I said to Gordon I was worried by him."

A new opinion poll also makes worrying reading for the Labour leadership.

A year after Mr Miliband launched his “One Nation” slogan, nearly half of voters, 47%, say they don't know what it means, according to a ComRes poll for The Independent on Sunday and the Sunday Mirror.

On voting intentions Labour's lead over the Tories is barely changed, at eight points: Con 28% (0), Lab 36% (-1), UKIP 17% (-2), LD 10% (+2) and Others 9% (+1)

But Mr Miliband's ratings are poor, with 52% saying that he doesn't have the qualities to be an effective prime minister.

However, more people say they and their families would be better off if Labour won the election (30%) than if the Conservatives did (22%).

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 09:26 - 29736 of 81564

Labour are desperate as they have no policies. lol

Haystack - 22 Sep 2013 11:16 - 29737 of 81564

Labour would need a huge bureaucracy to monitor all these stupid policies.

Fred1new - 22 Sep 2013 11:45 - 29738 of 81564

The coalition already have one and increase it every day.

Or they could take over tory party machine after the party crashes at the next election and their employees, mps are made redundant.

But I suppose that group will be unemployable as not fit for purpose.

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But I do appreciate this cartoon.

Fred1new - 22 Sep 2013 11:46 - 29739 of 81564

I still believe Bliar was a tory party mole.

8---)

goldfinger - 22 Sep 2013 17:50 - 29740 of 81564

Whats this Tory clap trap about being neck and neck in the polls, absolute rubbish....

electionista‏@electionista
UK - YouGov/Sunday Times poll: CON 33%, LAB 37%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 11%

AND

electionista‏@electionista
UK - Opinium/Observer poll: CON 29%, LAB 36%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 17%

AND

electionista‏@electionista
UK - ComRes poll: CON 28%, LAB 36%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 17

AND

electionista‏@electionista
UK - Populus poll: CON 33%, LAB 39%, LDEM 11%, UKIP 9%

goldfinger - 22 Sep 2013 17:51 - 29741 of 81564

Somebodys being telling porkies or Milliband has done a great escape act!!!!!!!!!

Haystack - 22 Sep 2013 17:55 - 29742 of 81564

And the trend is towards the Conservatives in every poll. The YouGov showed neck and neck. The figure of 4 today is still within the margin of error. If you take any poll the trend is down for Labour.

They are doomed. If it was a stock it would be a STRONG SELL just before it went bust.

Now Labour and Milibland have rumours of dirty tricks by Brown. Brown's two assistants were Balls and Milibland.

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 18:04 - 29743 of 81564

According to the ComRes survey of 1,350 - out of a total 6,842 - Labour councillors in England and Wales, 57% thought Mr Miliband was doing a good job as Labour leader but only 49% thought he should lead the party into the next election, while 30% thought they would stand a better chance of winning with a different leader.

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 18:08 - 29744 of 81564

Labour are not doing their homework before bringing out these ill thought out policies. (below)

The Conservatives also claim Mr Miliband's apprenticeship scheme would be against EU law, which prevents member countries giving preferential treatment to their own citizens in the jobs market

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 18:11 - 29745 of 81564

BBC news -

Labours apprenticeship scheme

'Shambles'

But the plan did not go down well with business groups, with the CBI warning it could lead to more red tape for firms and the British Chambers of Commerce dubbing it an "apprentice tax" on employers that would not help young people or curb immigration.

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 18:16 - 29746 of 81564

So it is that Labour risks unveiling real policy substance and still leaving people wondering what on earth the man who wants to be our next prime minister might do if he reached Number 10.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24195015

dreamcatcher - 22 Sep 2013 18:17 - 29747 of 81564

"A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma".


So it is that Labour risks unveiling real policy substance and still leaving people wondering what on earth the man who wants to be our next prime minister might do if he reached Number 10.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24195015

Haystack - 22 Sep 2013 18:35 - 29748 of 81564

Do we want socialism? The last time it was attempted, it was the downfall of Michael Foot.

Ed Miliband: I'm bringing socialism back to Britain

Ed Miliband has said he is "bringing back socialism" to Britain as he unveiled new plans to strengthen the minimum wage ahead of the Labour Party conference.

In a question-and-answer session, Mr Miliband was asked when he would “bring back socialism”. He replied: “That’s what we are doing, Sir.”

goldfinger - 22 Sep 2013 18:51 - 29749 of 81564

The last 4 polls on electionista(shown above) SHOW THE TREND IS GOING BACK LABOURS WAY.

Last week all the polls had them at just 3 or 4 points in front or level like the Suns defunkt poll.

Now they have widened out again. The trend is with labour.

Is it UKIP supporters moving over???, looks that way to me.

cynic - 22 Sep 2013 18:53 - 29750 of 81564

yawn

appropos nothing in particular .... Golden Hind in Marylebone Lane has fantastic chips - and fish to match
can't think why that came to mind

goldfinger - 22 Sep 2013 19:01 - 29751 of 81564

Yep the trend is now back with labour.

Its the voters that count not trivial side show bust ups and arguments that the press and media love to transmit.

No doubt it will happen at the Tory conference aswel, pound to a penny Linton Crosby will be enbroiled in some kind of smear talk.

MaxK - 22 Sep 2013 19:02 - 29752 of 81564

Best chippy I've come across...pricey tho.


The Seashell Of Lisson Grove



Lisson Grove North, W16

MaxK - 22 Sep 2013 19:04 - 29753 of 81564

What trend? Nu Lab haven't got a workable policy to their name!
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