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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 12:37 - 2988 of 12628

Ho dear its now being reported that the eu are co-operating with
African countries to try and curb migration..

Strange how this is all happening now, just conveniently before the 23rd.

Wonder why they are not putting out all these new regulations and
directives they've been storing up until the 24th?.

And judging by the lack of all these reports about immigrants traveling
from Turkey and the African coast, it must have ALL stopped now then EH!

Wasn't that long ago when the media was falling over themselves to
report from some navy ship(ferry sic!) how many they were picking up
and bringing to europe...

MaxK - 16 Jun 2016 13:01 - 2989 of 12628

Haystack - 16 Jun 2016 14:18 - 2990 of 12628

will10 - 16 Jun 2016 15:12 - 2991 of 12628

In to the last week now.
I'm sorry to see it but, ft poll of polls now have Brexit 48% and Remain 43%.
Hoping for sanity to arrive next week and we rise into the vote.
In any event, holding short the housebuilding shares for a sharp dip.
Surprised you Breiters are all not much more up beat.
Be careful what you wish for.

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 16:15 - 2992 of 12628

We'l make up for it on the 24th if its a vote to LEAVE, which hopefully
it will be, and going by most people(99%) that i speak to are for LEAVE..

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 18:58 - 2993 of 12628

"A Leave vote would lead to a particularly polarised response from the UK equity market, with domestic banking and retail falling sharply, while staples (tobacco and beverages) and pharmaceuticals should benefit – at least in relative terms – from weaker sterling as well as their naturally defensive earnings bases.

Smaller companies would be particularly vulnerable to trade uncertainty, while consumers may well lift their precautionary savings, affecting the high street."


More at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/investing/shares/brexit-four-top-investors-on-how-the-eu-referendum-will-move-sto/

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 19:05 - 2994 of 12628

Of course, if we do get a Brexit and the GBP and UK stock market takes a hit, then this would make the UK a brilliant place to invest in.

It would obviously be good 'common sense' to buy GBP and UK stocks during and after any drop. However, any bounceback might well be so quick, that you could easily miss opportunities.

I'm sitting tight and will just prat about a bit with Betfair.

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 19:07 - 2995 of 12628

If there is a vote to LEAVE, then article 50 would be invoked, which
means a timetable has started, but trade WILL carry on as normal, it
just won't stop, its only when negotiations have concluded and what
trade deals have been agreed on, all being well within 2 years?..

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 19:13 - 2996 of 12628

Well, yes, but with a Brexit, uncertainty is now certain to stay with us for a while.

Markets don't like uncertainty.

Senior political figures might resign if we get a Brexit. It also might be sometime before we are sure about our actual political leadership. It might also take some time for announcements to be made about new trade deal negotiations and what new taxation requirements are going to be needed (if any).

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 20:11 - 2997 of 12628

Fred1new - 16 Jun 2016 20:38 - 2998 of 12628

I wonder how many old aged pensioners now living in the EU will return from their villas and flats to the UK.

Should put a strain on the NHS and welfare system.

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 23:35 - 3000 of 12628

Why should any old aged pensioner return to the UK if they're
happy where they're, unless they want to come home on their
own volition?

And if they did come back no one should deny them any treatment
they need, after all they did contribute to the system before retiring
to the sun...Unlike some that arrive in the country and start claiming
everything going without contributing.

mentor - 17 Jun 2016 00:03 - 3001 of 12628

Immigration seems at the moment the main talking point and also the reason for most wanted OUT.

Just a couple of points.

The Asians, African and Arab migrants already represent a high % of the population and that number will continue to grow as Cameron last year introduced a fast track migration policy for Indian businesses which included sole traders. So a matchbox seller could be construed as a business and migrate to Britain + all the relatives.

2011 Census (obviously understated on the migration front.....)

White 55,073,552 87.17% Increase 1.81%(from 2001)
Asian/Asian British 4,373,339 6.92% Increase 69.58%(from 2001)
Black/Black British 1,904,684 3.01% Increase 65.80%(from 2001)

hTTps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Ethnicity

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 08:38 - 3002 of 12628

did anyone watch the prog lsat night on Romania and its music?
good brexit propaganda as well as very interesting

Fred1new - 17 Jun 2016 08:52 - 3003 of 12628

VICTIM - 17 Jun 2016 09:18 - 3004 of 12628

Waste of time .

aldwickk - 17 Jun 2016 09:56 - 3005 of 12628

What a disgusting cartoon , comparing Farage and refugees/ISIS/immigrants with marching to German concentration camps.

VICTIM - 17 Jun 2016 09:58 - 3006 of 12628

Fred has no level that he won't drop to .

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 10:04 - 3007 of 12628

the following is on yahoo ......
These are the only serious reasons to vote Leave in the EU referendum

it's a very interesting read even if unashamedly pro brexit

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and watch the prog i suggested (3002)
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