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Referendum : to be in Europe or not to be ?, that is the question ! (REF)     

required field - 03 Feb 2016 10:00

Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 19:05 - 2994 of 12628

Of course, if we do get a Brexit and the GBP and UK stock market takes a hit, then this would make the UK a brilliant place to invest in.

It would obviously be good 'common sense' to buy GBP and UK stocks during and after any drop. However, any bounceback might well be so quick, that you could easily miss opportunities.

I'm sitting tight and will just prat about a bit with Betfair.

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 19:07 - 2995 of 12628

If there is a vote to LEAVE, then article 50 would be invoked, which
means a timetable has started, but trade WILL carry on as normal, it
just won't stop, its only when negotiations have concluded and what
trade deals have been agreed on, all being well within 2 years?..

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 19:13 - 2996 of 12628

Well, yes, but with a Brexit, uncertainty is now certain to stay with us for a while.

Markets don't like uncertainty.

Senior political figures might resign if we get a Brexit. It also might be sometime before we are sure about our actual political leadership. It might also take some time for announcements to be made about new trade deal negotiations and what new taxation requirements are going to be needed (if any).

ExecLine - 16 Jun 2016 20:11 - 2997 of 12628

Fred1new - 16 Jun 2016 20:38 - 2998 of 12628

I wonder how many old aged pensioners now living in the EU will return from their villas and flats to the UK.

Should put a strain on the NHS and welfare system.

grannyboy - 16 Jun 2016 23:35 - 3000 of 12628

Why should any old aged pensioner return to the UK if they're
happy where they're, unless they want to come home on their
own volition?

And if they did come back no one should deny them any treatment
they need, after all they did contribute to the system before retiring
to the sun...Unlike some that arrive in the country and start claiming
everything going without contributing.

mentor - 17 Jun 2016 00:03 - 3001 of 12628

Immigration seems at the moment the main talking point and also the reason for most wanted OUT.

Just a couple of points.

The Asians, African and Arab migrants already represent a high % of the population and that number will continue to grow as Cameron last year introduced a fast track migration policy for Indian businesses which included sole traders. So a matchbox seller could be construed as a business and migrate to Britain + all the relatives.

2011 Census (obviously understated on the migration front.....)

White 55,073,552 87.17% Increase 1.81%(from 2001)
Asian/Asian British 4,373,339 6.92% Increase 69.58%(from 2001)
Black/Black British 1,904,684 3.01% Increase 65.80%(from 2001)

hTTps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Ethnicity

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 08:38 - 3002 of 12628

did anyone watch the prog lsat night on Romania and its music?
good brexit propaganda as well as very interesting

Fred1new - 17 Jun 2016 08:52 - 3003 of 12628

VICTIM - 17 Jun 2016 09:18 - 3004 of 12628

Waste of time .

aldwickk - 17 Jun 2016 09:56 - 3005 of 12628

What a disgusting cartoon , comparing Farage and refugees/ISIS/immigrants with marching to German concentration camps.

VICTIM - 17 Jun 2016 09:58 - 3006 of 12628

Fred has no level that he won't drop to .

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 10:04 - 3007 of 12628

the following is on yahoo ......
These are the only serious reasons to vote Leave in the EU referendum

it's a very interesting read even if unashamedly pro brexit

==============

and watch the prog i suggested (3002)

MaxK - 17 Jun 2016 10:05 - 3008 of 12628

I wonder if this (sick) opportunity will work for the remainers?

The true left at work.

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 10:19 - 3009 of 12628

please elucidate

Haystack - 17 Jun 2016 10:19 - 3010 of 12628

I see no reason why the immigration figures would be understated in the 2011 census.

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 10:22 - 3011 of 12628

3007 ...... try the following as a link
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/only-serious-reasons-vote-leave-060000720.html

cynic - 17 Jun 2016 10:24 - 3012 of 12628

hays - if people did not complete the census form, then there would be no record of them in that respect ....... and which category is most likely not to complete the form?

mentor - 17 Jun 2016 10:40 - 3013 of 12628

How laws has been changed over the years and Britain has NO veto over them any longer..........

Brexit: Facts Not Fear - Toby Young

I ’ve made a short film with my friend Roger Bowles about why I’ll be voting Leave on 23 June and why I think you should, too. We’ve focused exclusively on the sovereignty argument, which we think is the most persuasive one. If you’re on the same side as us, please share this with as many people as possible.

We’ve called it ‘Brexit: Facts Not Fear’ because we think it’s important that people should be acquainted with as many facts as possible when they cast their vote. Below is a transcript of the film, with links corroborating the facts referred to.

Hi. I’m Toby Young, I’m an associate editor of the Spectator. The British public have been crying out for facts in the Brexit debate so they can make an informed choice about whether to leave or remain in the European Union. So I want to give you some facts about what’s happened to British sovereignty since we joined what was then called the European Economic Community in 1973.......

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-facts-not-fear/
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