Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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fred - your comment has been swamped by the usual plague ..... your utopian ideal was nothing to do with NHS (a different but far smaller problem), but to do with your supremely naive belief that the lion would ever lie with the lamb, unless he'd already eaten his fill and/or the lamb was already dead

Listening to Ed on R4 - sounds like he has been to the same/similar speech coach that Maggie used - unfortunately it just emphasises the 'nasal' aspect of his style.

now imagine a piranha being a vegetarian
has human nature intrinsically changed since neanderthal times? ...... i think not

Cynic,

Just a freak change in its DNA.

Just imagine if you had been luckier, you could have been an intelligent human being.

8-)

dreadful thought .... what's your excuse?

Cynic.

Do you know the sad thing is that even if some reached Utopia they would be greedy enough to want more for themselves and think they justified it?

do you realise that that is called human nature?

So was sending 6 years olds under ground to work, when the coal owners said "things" shouldn't change.

If you haven't read it, pinch a copy of A J Cronin's "The Citadel" or even better than that "Adventures in Two Worlds " by the same author.

Read them back in the 50s and they influence me helped me understand why there was resistance to change and necessity for union representation and action, some of the latter was poor, but that was due to "human nature".


Take a risk and read them. Very well written and not as sentimental as the film version.

The words used are a bit too long for DC.

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oy weh!
"lion and lamb" and what you write above effectively have nothing remotely to do with each other, and indeed, you almost admit as much in your previous post

It all depends on whether you believe in man's inherent goodness. I have seen little evidence. It is why we need laws.

I would be very doubtful of the Indonesian population. It sounds like an anthropologist's fantasy.

herman - because as you point out, that was a single tribe in isolation, so basic internal tribal law will prevail and will focus on survival ..... the early israeli kibbutzim also managed to work on pretty altruistic principles for a while

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