Thought I'd start a new thread as this is going to be a major talking point this year...have not made up my mind yet...(unlike bucksfizz)....but thinking of voting for an exit as Europe is not doing Britain any good at all it seems....

Well, yes, but with a Brexit, uncertainty is now certain to stay with us for a while.

Markets don't like uncertainty.

Senior political figures might resign if we get a Brexit. It also might be sometime before we are sure about our actual political leadership. It might also take some time for announcements to be made about new trade deal negotiations and what new taxation requirements are going to be needed (if any).

I wonder how many old aged pensioners now living in the EU will return from their villas and flats to the UK.

Should put a strain on the NHS and welfare system.

Four good articles:

http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk: Brexit: cutting through the noise

http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk: Ignore the noise over 'Brexit'

http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk: The political fix

http://www.investorschronicle.co.uk: Investors' rough ride may persist post referendum

Why should any old aged pensioner return to the UK if they're
happy where they're, unless they want to come home on their
own volition?

And if they did come back no one should deny them any treatment
they need, after all they did contribute to the system before retiring
to the sun...Unlike some that arrive in the country and start claiming
everything going without contributing.

Immigration seems at the moment the main talking point and also the reason for most wanted OUT.

Just a couple of points.

The Asians, African and Arab migrants already represent a high % of the population and that number will continue to grow as Cameron last year introduced a fast track migration policy for Indian businesses which included sole traders. So a matchbox seller could be construed as a business and migrate to Britain + all the relatives.

2011 Census (obviously understated on the migration front.....)

White 55,073,552 87.17% Increase 1.81%(from 2001)
Asian/Asian British 4,373,339 6.92% Increase 69.58%(from 2001)
Black/Black British 1,904,684 3.01% Increase 65.80%(from 2001)

hTTps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_Kingdom#Ethnicity

did anyone watch the prog lsat night on Romania and its music?
good brexit propaganda as well as very interesting

Waste of time .

What a disgusting cartoon , comparing Farage and refugees/ISIS/immigrants with marching to German concentration camps.

Fred has no level that he won't drop to .

the following is on yahoo ......
These are the only serious reasons to vote Leave in the EU referendum

it's a very interesting read even if unashamedly pro brexit

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and watch the prog i suggested (3002)

I wonder if this (sick) opportunity will work for the remainers?

The true left at work.

please elucidate

I see no reason why the immigration figures would be understated in the 2011 census.

3007 ...... try the following as a link
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/only-serious-reasons-vote-leave-060000720.html

hays - if people did not complete the census form, then there would be no record of them in that respect ....... and which category is most likely not to complete the form?

How laws has been changed over the years and Britain has NO veto over them any longer..........

Brexit: Facts Not Fear - Toby Young

I ’ve made a short film with my friend Roger Bowles about why I’ll be voting Leave on 23 June and why I think you should, too. We’ve focused exclusively on the sovereignty argument, which we think is the most persuasive one. If you’re on the same side as us, please share this with as many people as possible.

We’ve called it ‘Brexit: Facts Not Fear’ because we think it’s important that people should be acquainted with as many facts as possible when they cast their vote. Below is a transcript of the film, with links corroborating the facts referred to.

Hi. I’m Toby Young, I’m an associate editor of the Spectator. The British public have been crying out for facts in the Brexit debate so they can make an informed choice about whether to leave or remain in the European Union. So I want to give you some facts about what’s happened to British sovereignty since we joined what was then called the European Economic Community in 1973.......

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/brexit-facts-not-fear/

There weren't a significant number of census forms not filled in. They can tell the numbers missing based on the numbers delivered to the addresses. There are pretty accurate numbers of total households in the UK from other sources and the missing numbers are quite small. I used to use those figures for demographic profiling. There are figures available from government sources, financial institutions such as Equifax etc, councils, electricity, water and gas supply and they match the census figures quite closely.

Regarding the veto: Tony Blair gave away our veto at the time of the Lisbon Treaty. He also gave away £7 billion of our rebate for the vague promise of reform of the Common Agriculture Policy which unsurprisingly never happened.