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Traders Thread - Thursday 12th February (BARC)     

Crocodile - 11 Feb 2004 21:46

UK PreMarket Futures FTSE +18 DAX +10 DOW -15 S&P -1 Nasdaq +1

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Unilever said its 2003 net profit had come in at 4.277 billion euros at the higher end of analysts' expectations, who had predicted a 2003 profit ranging between 3.531 billion and 4.288 billion euros. Niall FitzGerald will retire as chairman 

Barclays bank said on Thursday that full-year profit rose 20 percent to 3.845 billion pounds, matching analysts' expectations, boosted by growth at its investment banking business.

Rolls-Royce posted an 11.8 percent rise in profit to 285 million pounds beating forecasts of 271.75 million pounds. It said it expected to increase earnings in 2004 despite some challenging markets.

BT reported a 7% rise in Q3 earnings near the top end of forecasts, on a 2.6 percent decline in revenues. Underlying earnings per share rose to 4.4 pence for the three months with analysts forecasts at 4.3p.

lastminute.com posted a narrowing first-quarter loss, and said the second quarter had started well.

Centrica reported a 10.5% rise in annual earnings that met market forecasts, helped by strong growth at its North American operations. EPS rose to 16.8 pence from 15.2 pence, analysts had forecast of 16.9 pence.

Marconi said its Q3 loss widened slightly but that sales were still recovering. Its operating loss rose to 66 million pounds from 62 million and sales fell 11 percent to 408 million pounds

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little woman - 12 Feb 2004 08:30 - 3 of 44

Morning all

Nice to see the press speculation about ULVR's results were wrong. After dropping the last two days it currently over 25p up.

Stockbunny - I presume like me, you are still holding some?

Douggie - 12 Feb 2004 08:44 - 4 of 44

mornin all

stockbunny - 12 Feb 2004 09:27 - 5 of 44

Good Morning!! Oh Yes LW I'm in early today and you know why!! LOL
Nearly spluttered my toast this AM whilst eating and watching
the time delayed prices on C4
Had to get online and in here....

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 09:33 - 6 of 44

Morning all,

Greenspan certainly shook things up yesterday by being
pleased with Dollar weakness helping US deficit.

Gives me conflicting signals now. UK usually follows US,
but weakening Dollar is hurting the Eurozone.

Therefore if the US continues to rise then UK markets usually
follow, but if the reason the US is rising is because their exports
are more competitive and their balance of payments are improved
by the weakening Dollar then the Eurozone should drop.

SHEL are now cheaper than my sell price yesterday. But due to the
weakening Dollar and oil is priced in Dollars, their profits should
devalue. But when the Dollar strenghthens again, the Dollar profits
they already have will start to increase in value again in relation to their
base currency. Do I wait for a possible cheaper price or build a position
at various levels.

My head hurts! :-) I'll trade what I see.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 09:53 - 7 of 44

FTSE doesn't seem to want to stay above my 4410 level.

It looks like the focus is going to be on FTSE/DOW 4400/10700
respectively.

Melnibone.

stockbunny - 12 Feb 2004 09:57 - 8 of 44

Melnibone - have a virtual Headex and a cup of tea.
Still sitting on ULVR, being stubborn!

little woman - 12 Feb 2004 10:03 - 9 of 44

Stockbunny - ULVR are in my long term portfolio for the div. I keep raising the stop loss price to just below S3, so if they take a really big dive, I can cash in. Otherwise just sit tight and ignore the small dips.

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 10:20 - 10 of 44

Thanks stockbunny, advice taken. :-)

Decided to ignore all this conflicting noise and
started building my long SHEL position again.

Will watch FTSE/DAX/CAC/EUSTOXX50 for my Sterling/Euro denominated
intraday scalps. I still don't fancy holding any Dollars
so I'll leave the US markets alone for the time being.

Melnibone.

stockbunny - 12 Feb 2004 10:38 - 11 of 44

Yes, I missed the 559p this AM - my own fault, didn't
get on to streaming prices quick enough this morning!
Looking for bid of 5.53 ideally....Profit will than
counter balance the divi loss.

stockbunny - 12 Feb 2004 11:32 - 12 of 44

Looks more likely I'll settle for around 551p now
will watch it for a while longer just in case it rises further...
4 months investment and a 47p gain will still do nicely!
9% roughly I think, but maths is not my strongest point LOL

little woman - 12 Feb 2004 11:41 - 13 of 44

I'm going to stick it out to see if it'll continue rising long term. By revising the stop loss to just under the highest S3 level, I'll keep a decent profit if it does drop heavily, but benefit if it doesn't. The trouble with some shares, is that they don't always drop enough to justify going back in at a later date!

stockbunny - 12 Feb 2004 11:56 - 14 of 44

Agreed and there must be people with stop-losses in place
currently I presume as there are sales going thru' as low
as 548p, presume the stop-loss is being triggered - shame
without that it could recover upwards...

little woman - 12 Feb 2004 12:12 - 15 of 44

People would not have had the chance to put new stop losses in place on the current price since I suspect most put them in like I do, based on the previous days close.

My stop loss is at 5.26 based on the S3 level of 5.29 from last Friday. Tonight I expect the S3 level to go up based on the closing price, and I'll adjust it tommorrow based on that.

Stockbunny, I am presuming you know what S1, S2 & S3 are?

little woman - 12 Feb 2004 12:24 - 16 of 44

There goes GSK. Sold my long term holding a loss, but will buy back once the dust settles.

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 12:34 - 17 of 44

Sorry to hear that little woman. I liked GSK, same as you.
This is what I was worried about on GSK which is why
I switched from holding to scalping on it.

1150p support should have held longer than this. As I posted a few
days ago, if 1150 goes then there is a real danger of seeing
1000p again if the FTSE retraces.

The generic competition seems to be spooking the holders.
The Paxil generic competition won't do a lot for SKP's share price
either, imho. Paxcil Cr is a big part of SKP.

Melnibone.

little woman - 12 Feb 2004 12:45 - 18 of 44

GSK keeps trying to pull back, but is not holding. I was looking at the heat map for the FTSE100 and there is a huge range from RR which is 12% up through to GSK which is 6% down. The question is whether the shares currently up will pull back and to push the FTSE100 down even more.

Fundamentalist - 12 Feb 2004 12:52 - 19 of 44

LW/Melnibone - made a nice profit on gsk short and am looking to open another long again. I agree with your comments re: SKP. I have a fairly large holding in my ISA, but will continue to hold till results - hopefully we will get Depomorphine announcement the share needs to give it another lift

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 12:59 - 20 of 44

GSK will bounce around now as daytraders have fun and longer
term Bulls or Bears use the price action to sort out their positions.

Ref. FTSE, I'm sticking with my other posts in that iaw my swing
charts the FTSE is currently range trading between two swing lows
of circa 4330/4430 with the 60Day EMA of 4410 acting as a pivot
point at the top end of the range. A good break of these levels, that is led
by the US markets, will give short term direction.

Melnibone.

Melnibone - 12 Feb 2004 13:04 - 21 of 44

Nice calls, Fundamentalist.

You seem to be using GSK as a trading vehicle to good effect.
Told you it was more satisfying trading them rather than holding
them.:-)

GSK's price of 11 gives it a nice tight % spread.

Melnibone.

ThePlayboy - 12 Feb 2004 13:33 - 22 of 44

345/50k jobless exp



363k act fig

retail sales worse down .3

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