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FTSE + FTSE 250 - consider trading (FTSE)     

cynic - 20 Oct 2007 12:12

rather than pick out individual stocks to trade, it can often be worthwhile to trade the indices themselves, especially in times of high volatility.

for those so inclined, i attach below charts for FTSE and FTSE 250, though one might equally be tempted to trade Dow or S&P, which is significantly broader in its coverage, or even NASDAQ

for ease of reading, i have attached 1 year and 3 month charts in each instance

Strawbs - 06 Oct 2008 10:22 - 3004 of 21973

The 4300 to 4500 zone looks like a good support area to me. I find that technical analysis only works when the majority are feeling rational though...... :-)

Strawbs.

Falcothou - 06 Oct 2008 10:28 - 3005 of 21973

700 point Mondays! Always been a popular day to sell

BigTed - 06 Oct 2008 10:31 - 3006 of 21973

I absolutely cannot understand why gold isn't rocketing...

dealerdear - 06 Oct 2008 10:37 - 3007 of 21973

Because there is no money. The end of credit means everything has to crash. The world lives on credit. People can't go into a safe haven cause it doesn't exist.

required field - 06 Oct 2008 11:10 - 3008 of 21973

Down 300 points (ftse 100)....very serious !....this is no joke !.

Strawbs - 06 Oct 2008 11:15 - 3009 of 21973

You have to love the irony. People are presumably selling equities because of the mess in the financial system (Iceland, Hypo etc.). When the money clears from the equity sales though, it'll be sitting in a bank account somewhere.... :-)

Strawbs.

2517GEORGE - 06 Oct 2008 11:18 - 3010 of 21973

Many co's are strapped for cash atm and with their credit lines being constrained their options are limited to cost saving where they can, ie employees, also earnings expectations are still too high, so when the poor results arrive from the likes of retailers and builders in particular along with the financial sector. sp's will fall even further, imo. The co's who bought back their own shares at much higher prices must be wishing they had held on to their money.
2517

HARRYCAT - 06 Oct 2008 11:21 - 3011 of 21973

DOW futures currently -277.

Just another thought; I presume there is no danger of the brokers (some of whom are linked to banks) going to the wall? Everything is held in nominee accounts, so if they go down what happens to the stocks they hold?

required field - 06 Oct 2008 11:22 - 3012 of 21973

Griffin Mining...for one bought back shares around 68p if I'm not mistaken....now 21p !.

dealerdear - 06 Oct 2008 14:55 - 3013 of 21973

Can feel an emergency rate cut coming.

Not sure they can wait til Thursday. At this rate (whoops) there won't be an economy left.

dealerdear - 06 Oct 2008 15:00 - 3014 of 21973

We've just got total panic now

Strawbs - 06 Oct 2008 15:00 - 3015 of 21973

There'll still be an economy.....

It all looks spectacular, but crashes always do, and this could be the mother of all crashes.... I suspect it'll hit bottom eventually, or at least slow the rate of decline....

In my (I really should be doing some work) opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 06 Oct 2008 15:29 - 3016 of 21973

how about a punt on long tomorrow.

Strawbs - 06 Oct 2008 15:34 - 3017 of 21973

After Robert Peston does his "it's all,,,,, very, very serioussss Hugh" on the telly tonight they'll probably be selling again tomorrow...... :-)

Strawbs.

halifax - 06 Oct 2008 16:05 - 3018 of 21973

Look at volumes to determine the real extent of panic selling/marking down.

Strawbs - 06 Oct 2008 16:16 - 3019 of 21973

Volumes look about the same as the last few weeks. I should think the shorting ban hasn't helped in that respect. These falls may be more about a lack of buyers than a mass of sellers, e.g. short covering, waiting for a bottom, or maybe not much money around to invest. Wouldn't be surprised if some of the selling is margin related too. More hedgies going to the wall perhaps....

In my opinion.

Strawbs.

dealerdear - 06 Oct 2008 16:29 - 3020 of 21973

100% agreement Strawbs. I'm here all day and since the ban on short selling what has been very noticable is the lack of bounce after a big fall ie no short covering.

As you say it is really about a total lack of buyers entering the market (apart from me! :-( )

Falcothou - 06 Oct 2008 16:44 - 3021 of 21973

I have hedged all positions and battened down the hatches. Glad to have got out of Lloyds last Friday,not so lucky with Rio or Dow long late last Friday doh! The problem with trading banks at the moment is that you can't hedge them due to short sell ban which in a way makes them one of the riskiest to trade, especially with no shorters buying on the way down, other than shorting an index or other sector. Mind you you could short Warren Buffett and you would make money in this market!

Falcothou - 06 Oct 2008 17:46 - 3022 of 21973

Darling said he will do anything necessary to sort out this crisis wonder if that includes resigning

bhunt1910 - 06 Oct 2008 19:29 - 3023 of 21973

Is now the time to go long = FTSE @ 4480?
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