Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays hays Hays...........

Cameron opens talks with Clegg on second Coalition
David Cameron has held talks with Nick Clegg about forming a second coalition after 2015, amid growing concern in Downing Street that the Conservatives will not win the next election.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/10340948/Cameron-opens-talks-with-Clegg-on-second-Coalition.html

Of course there will be discussions. I bet the Libs don't want to go into coalition with Labour. They wouldn't trust them to have any sensible policies. It is old news.

Going to a conference admiting you cant win an election is very negative indeed. Some back benchers will certainly bring this point up.

And by the way we dont want to go ito a collusion with the lib/dems. Harriet Harman made that very clear.

David Cameron could win Ukip votes
NEARLY nine out of ten Ukip supporters could be persuaded to vote Tory at the next General Election, an opinion poll showed yesterday

In a YouGov poll 12 per cent of people backing the anti-Brussels party insist they would never vote Tory. But most would switch their support to David Cameron if he promised more action on the issues they care about.

Seventy per cent of Ukip supporters would consider voting Tory if the party had tougher policies to limit benefits to immigrants. And 68 per cent could switch if the Tories pledged firmer action to reduce immigration. A promise to pull Britain out of the EU could see 65 per cent supporting the Tories.

Forty per cent were ready to switch if it was the only way of keeping Labour out of power.

Tories plan to make the warning that a Ukip vote could help put Ed Miliband in power a key election strategy.

Discussing a future coalition is far from admitting that they can't win. We may be moving towards a period of more coalitions. It is not as bad as Germany and Italy where coalitions are almost bound to happen due to the voting systems and constitutions put in place by the allies after the last war.

re: 30132

And of course, believing anything that comes out of Cameroons mouth is worth a pinch of shit is very helpful.

The man is a liar, he cannot be trusted with the time of day, much less with any promise.

He has poisoned the tory well, any former tory with even half a brain will not vote for him and the tory party as it stands.

Cos it aint tory!

Of course it is Tory. What do you classify as Tory? Don't forget that Cameron is in a coalition and cannot have Conservative policies. The Libs have the same problem.

Latest YouGov / The Sunday Times results 267h September -

Con 31%, Lab 42%, LD 9%, UKIP 13%; APP -30

It seems the voters are seeing through the shallowness of con propaganda.

Wavey Davey and Piggy Osborne are looking for the exits to the Food Banks.

New original policy, pump money back in to the housing bubble until it bursts again.

Don't worry the condom is of stronger material this time and besides Wavey Davey won't be there when it does.

What a barren party the present con party is been seen to be.

Bring back Tebbit and Boris to carry his bags.

Tories yearn for their yesterdays

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it was indeed interesting, notwithstanding that the "promises" are financially undeliverable - suggest you also read ST biz section editorial ..... however, it certainly highlights where the public thinks its priorities and interests lie, even if the reality (should it ever happen) is very likely to turn out a lot less palatable than realised

Up to £600k .... lol



First-timers may miss Help to Buy


Kathryn Cooper, Economics Correspondent Published: 29 September 2013


FIRST-TIME buyers could be priced out of the government’s controversial Help to Buy scheme as the Treasury seeks to limit the risks of a bubble.

Final details of George Osborne’s flagship mortgage guarantee scheme, designed to lower the cost of loans for borrowers with small deposits, will be unveiled by the chancellor this week.

A three-tier pricing structure is expected, with higher fees on loans where borrowers have a deposit of only 5% to 10% — typically taken out by first-time buyers.

The £12bn mortgage guarantee scheme is the second phase of the government’s Help to Buy initiative.

Unlike the first phase, it will be open to buyers purchasing both new and second-hand homes worth up to £600,000. This has left Osborne open to accusations he is pumping up prices rather than boosting supply.

House prices have jumped 10% in London over the past 12 months and are up 5% across Britain, Nationwide building society said last week.


http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/article1320466.ece

Where is Hays?

Is he hiding at the UKIP Party Conference in Manchester 2013:


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Strange that Cameron isn't lurching to the right.

He will be leading the BNP by the time of the next election.

i concur - i too am puzzled (taken aback) by this £600k ceiling (£400k) in scotland ..... i know london is very expensive indeed, but even there, surely an adequate "first time" flat can be bought for <£400k, and once you get to say kent, then £200/250k should buy you quite a nice house in good condition

Cynic.

If as suggested by Cameron is carried through, it strikes me that the at 3% interest payment, which is the least it will be least in 3 years time the payment will be £17,000 a year.

Including costs and reduction payments the sum will be at the very least, close to £20,000-25,000.

When you consider the average income is said to be £26,500 (I would like to see the break down of that figure by age) I will leave to you the "social" consequence of the policy.

I think is another "back of cigarette packet" reflex policy and will go down a bomb outside London.

28 con party London MPs may be cheering it, 45 London MPs probably won't be.

It will increase the differences across the country and will be seen that way.

I think the sink looks more like a sluice.

I understand why it is needed.

8-)

http://career-advice.monster.co.uk/salary-benefits/pay-salary-advice/uk-average-salary-graphs/article.aspx