Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Discussing a future coalition is far from admitting that they can't win. We may be moving towards a period of more coalitions. It is not as bad as Germany and Italy where coalitions are almost bound to happen due to the voting systems and constitutions put in place by the allies after the last war.

re: 30132

And of course, believing anything that comes out of Cameroons mouth is worth a pinch of shit is very helpful.

The man is a liar, he cannot be trusted with the time of day, much less with any promise.

He has poisoned the tory well, any former tory with even half a brain will not vote for him and the tory party as it stands.

Cos it aint tory!

Of course it is Tory. What do you classify as Tory? Don't forget that Cameron is in a coalition and cannot have Conservative policies. The Libs have the same problem.

Latest YouGov / The Sunday Times results 267h September -

Con 31%, Lab 42%, LD 9%, UKIP 13%; APP -30

It seems the voters are seeing through the shallowness of con propaganda.

Wavey Davey and Piggy Osborne are looking for the exits to the Food Banks.

New original policy, pump money back in to the housing bubble until it bursts again.

Don't worry the condom is of stronger material this time and besides Wavey Davey won't be there when it does.

What a barren party the present con party is been seen to be.

Bring back Tebbit and Boris to carry his bags.

Tories yearn for their yesterdays

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it was indeed interesting, notwithstanding that the "promises" are financially undeliverable - suggest you also read ST biz section editorial ..... however, it certainly highlights where the public thinks its priorities and interests lie, even if the reality (should it ever happen) is very likely to turn out a lot less palatable than realised

Up to £600k .... lol



First-timers may miss Help to Buy


Kathryn Cooper, Economics Correspondent Published: 29 September 2013


FIRST-TIME buyers could be priced out of the government’s controversial Help to Buy scheme as the Treasury seeks to limit the risks of a bubble.

Final details of George Osborne’s flagship mortgage guarantee scheme, designed to lower the cost of loans for borrowers with small deposits, will be unveiled by the chancellor this week.

A three-tier pricing structure is expected, with higher fees on loans where borrowers have a deposit of only 5% to 10% — typically taken out by first-time buyers.

The £12bn mortgage guarantee scheme is the second phase of the government’s Help to Buy initiative.

Unlike the first phase, it will be open to buyers purchasing both new and second-hand homes worth up to £600,000. This has left Osborne open to accusations he is pumping up prices rather than boosting supply.

House prices have jumped 10% in London over the past 12 months and are up 5% across Britain, Nationwide building society said last week.


http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/business/article1320466.ece

Where is Hays?

Is he hiding at the UKIP Party Conference in Manchester 2013:


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Strange that Cameron isn't lurching to the right.

He will be leading the BNP by the time of the next election.

i concur - i too am puzzled (taken aback) by this £600k ceiling (£400k) in scotland ..... i know london is very expensive indeed, but even there, surely an adequate "first time" flat can be bought for <£400k, and once you get to say kent, then £200/250k should buy you quite a nice house in good condition

Cynic.

If as suggested by Cameron is carried through, it strikes me that the at 3% interest payment, which is the least it will be least in 3 years time the payment will be £17,000 a year.

Including costs and reduction payments the sum will be at the very least, close to £20,000-25,000.

When you consider the average income is said to be £26,500 (I would like to see the break down of that figure by age) I will leave to you the "social" consequence of the policy.

I think is another "back of cigarette packet" reflex policy and will go down a bomb outside London.

28 con party London MPs may be cheering it, 45 London MPs probably won't be.

It will increase the differences across the country and will be seen that way.

I think the sink looks more like a sluice.

I understand why it is needed.

8-)

http://career-advice.monster.co.uk/salary-benefits/pay-salary-advice/uk-average-salary-graphs/article.aspx

Haystack - post 30144 - what a fantastic idea. I presume the right tap is for red and the left tap for white.

Vote ukip our only hope

A butter encouraging a vote for the nutter party.

When interest rates rise and they will do a lot quicker than some think i hate to think just what the housing market is going to look like.

IMO this is the USA 2007 - 2011 but a lot worse.

Wavy Davy and U Turn George are panic striken.

Even the Forces have now turned on them.

Both of them along with the cabinet havent a clue and why should they given their isolated priviledged upbringing.

Lab today 11 points in front in a right wing tory sheet. This is just the beginning.

Tory conference exclusive: Donors are deserting the Conservatives for Ukip


Since 2010, 14 major supporters switch to give £500,000 to Eurosceptics, while Nigel Farage also picks up smaller donations as numbers giving to Tories is halved


Jane Merrick, John Rentoul


Sunday 29 September 2013



A string of Conservative donors has deserted David Cameron and poured nearly half a million pounds into Ukip's election fighting fund, The Independent on Sunday can reveal.


Fourteen individuals have switched support from the Conservatives to Nigel Farage's party in the three years since the 2010 election, donating £488,000 to Ukip. An analysis of Electoral Commission figures also shows that the number of individual donors to the Tories overall has halved since the election, while the average donation has decreased by £14,000.

News of the donor-defectors to Ukip emerged on the eve of the Tory party conference in Manchester, in which the Prime Minister will urge the country not to give up on the coalition's austerity plan, declaring that "we are on the right track" and that the Tory party is there "for hardworking people".



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-conference-exclusive-donors-are-deserting-the-conservatives-for-ukip-8846599.html