Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

sticky - i think i heard on the radio this morning that the above applied to those who had already been through some gov't training scheme or other and still seemed disinclined to find a job ..... i could easily be wrong

for all that, i don't hear any squawks from CA (i think) where the unemployed are obliged to pick citrus fruit when in season if they want unemployment benefit

on the other side, reporting to the dole office every day is just nuts if applied across the board, for all sorts of obvious reasons, including swamping the damn place

Manuel,

Interesting choice of words "swamping".

Getting as bad as your leader's choice of words, with of course, his hasty withdrawal.

It is a pity, his father hadn't done the same.

8-)

It's working....



UK August Mortgage Approvals Highest since 2008 - BOE

Date : 30/09/2013 @ 10:06
Source : Dow Jones News

UK August Mortgage Approvals Highest since 2008 - BOE



By Jason Douglas and Ilona Billington

LONDON--The number of mortgage approvals in the U.K. rose in August to its highest monthly total in more than five years, Bank of England data showed Monday, in the latest sign a recovery in Britain's housing market is gathering pace.

The figures follow Prime Minister David Cameron's announcement Sunday that the launch of a controversial government-backed mortgage-guarantee program will be brought forward to October. The launch was initially planned for January.

The government says the program will help would-be homeowners struggling to afford to buy a property. Critics say the Help-to-Buy initiative risks inflating a bubble in house prices.

The central bank said the number of new mortgage approvals in the U.K. rose to 62,226 in August from 60,914 a month earlier. The total in August is the highest since February 2008 and is higher than the 61,700 approvals economists had expected.

The average annual interest rate on a new home loan fell to 3.15% in August, a new low since records began in 2004.

Total lending to consumers, net of repayments, increased by 1.6 billion pounds ($2.58 billion) in August, as both secured and unsecured borrowing rose.

Lending to businesses continued to shrink, however, underscoring worries about the prospects for fresh investment and new hiring. Net lending to nonfinancial firms shrank by GBP3.8 billion in August, the BOE said.

Write to Jason Douglas at jason.douglas@wsj.com and Ilona Billington at ilona.billington@wsj.com

Cyners them on benefits 3 years or more, ie the long term.

BUT the problem is these long term unemployed have within 3 years usually done 2 training courses in different trades. The problem being these courses arent long enough and give the trainees just the very basic skills after doing 2 months on job search and learning how to fill in a CV or application form.

Employers wont touch them.

Its just not good enough and this was the same under labour aswel so its not a party political issue.

You make a good point about this signing on every day, just how much in bus fares is that.

Problem is aswel it just keeps going on I know a young chap who'd been on 5 of these courses.

Any government IMO has to get these unemployed into work in the first 12 months or they are on the scrap heap and just go from one worse senario to another.

Then theirs the regional annomalies were for example plenty of work down south but none in the north or midlands.

Osbourne should be giving tax breaks etc etc to companys to move up north so that these unemployed can at least be taken on in say semi skilled and unskilled jobs.

Its not right to ask these youngsters to move away from family and freinds to the south.

My local paper used to have 7 full pages of job adverts 5 years ago now its less than half a page, which says it all.

Its no good Osbourne and Cameron being nasty about the matter they should have more sympathy and understanding and get their finger out.

Of course their is always some who just dont want to work, and thats a different matter.

gf

I see that you have been reading that silly lefty Kevin Maguire in the Mirror again. You know that comics like that are bad for you.

I am broadly in favour of tougher benefit rules. The only one that isn't workable is the turning up at job centres every day. The travelling expenses would be a problem., but the biggest difficulty would be the numbers of staff needed to handle the people. At present they have to turn up once every two weeks and staff levels are set for that frequency. I guess that it is a threat to make people take the unpaid work. It does have quite a few good points though. There are large numbers of people on benefits working for cash in hand and claiming benefits. It is certainly a policy that the public will like. The Labour party threatened to do the same, but never had the political will to do it.

Hays, theirs a lot of people in work aswel working for cash in hand and not paying VAT or Income Tax, what are you going to do about them???.

In fact your reply to my point about repeat course after repeat course is very ropey indeed.

Their is aswel the point that some employers are going to have subsidised labour whilst a competitor is not. Certainly a turn off for a potential conservative voter.

Liar NO2 has just taken the Tory Stage.

Very few people do any courses. I know a number of people on benefits and none of them has even been offered a course. The work for benefits is not for employers. It will be community based work. I am less bothered about people not paying VAT or income tax. At least they are working and their earning do feed into the economy. I am not a fan of income tax anyway.

good speech by Osborne so far.

''I am less bothered about people not paying VAT or income tax. At least they are working and their earning do feed into the economy.'' So it's ok to cheat the law-abiding taxpayer, is that what you're saying H?
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So weve got Hays saying he agrees with Tax Evasion. ohhhhhhhh dear. Speaks volumes.

Crap speech from Osbourne very little content. All bluster.

Have you ever paid cash for anything with no bill?

Thee is no moral argument for paying tax or against tax evasion.

Youve shown your true colours hays Im afraid.

A tax cheat,is a criminal.

Every day at my local newsagent, but in the way you mean, no absolutely not.
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Let know one be in doubt those that evade tax leads to others having to pay more into the system to cover for them.

Good speech from Osborne. More sensible than Ed Balls.

sticky - after 2 years i think not 3, but no matter ..... with reference to courses and similar, you're on the right track .... for sure, if you take a plumbing course, and i suspect it also applies to sparks and brickies, you then have to get field experience with a company before you are deemed sufficiently efficient and knowledgeable to go out on your own ..... problem is, none of these small trades-companies want or can afford to take on novices to train them up to provide competition.

if you have a decent even if basic education, then the problem is not as great, as there are quite a lot of companies offering apprenticeships, even if not in your preferred field - take a look at wyevale garden centres as an excellent example of a company offering lots of apprenticeships

I have remembered the way to get the unemployable back to work.




1) divide them into two classes


Class 1 will be defined as lower class and despicable

Class 2 will be defined as lower lower class and even more despicable.


They will be employed in road maintenance schemes.

Class 1 will have picks, shovels and wheel barrows and dig holes in the roads and take the rubbish to the rubbish heaps for storage.


Class 2 will have picks, shovels and wheel barrows and take their barrows to the storage heaps, fill their barrows and take their load to the roads and fill in the holes.


There is a 3rd class who will supervise the unemployable and well as a more despicable group of subcontractors who will falsify and guarantee the work at an extra fee for 4 weeks.

But this private work will have to be recompensed with payments back and fore under the table from tax payers' money, to council authorities to party funds.
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The con party has finally done it, we have now achieved the morality of a communist totalitarian state.