Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

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I see that you have been reading that silly lefty Kevin Maguire in the Mirror again. You know that comics like that are bad for you.

I am broadly in favour of tougher benefit rules. The only one that isn't workable is the turning up at job centres every day. The travelling expenses would be a problem., but the biggest difficulty would be the numbers of staff needed to handle the people. At present they have to turn up once every two weeks and staff levels are set for that frequency. I guess that it is a threat to make people take the unpaid work. It does have quite a few good points though. There are large numbers of people on benefits working for cash in hand and claiming benefits. It is certainly a policy that the public will like. The Labour party threatened to do the same, but never had the political will to do it.

Hays, theirs a lot of people in work aswel working for cash in hand and not paying VAT or Income Tax, what are you going to do about them???.

In fact your reply to my point about repeat course after repeat course is very ropey indeed.

Their is aswel the point that some employers are going to have subsidised labour whilst a competitor is not. Certainly a turn off for a potential conservative voter.

Liar NO2 has just taken the Tory Stage.

Very few people do any courses. I know a number of people on benefits and none of them has even been offered a course. The work for benefits is not for employers. It will be community based work. I am less bothered about people not paying VAT or income tax. At least they are working and their earning do feed into the economy. I am not a fan of income tax anyway.

good speech by Osborne so far.

''I am less bothered about people not paying VAT or income tax. At least they are working and their earning do feed into the economy.'' So it's ok to cheat the law-abiding taxpayer, is that what you're saying H?
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So weve got Hays saying he agrees with Tax Evasion. ohhhhhhhh dear. Speaks volumes.

Crap speech from Osbourne very little content. All bluster.

Have you ever paid cash for anything with no bill?

Thee is no moral argument for paying tax or against tax evasion.

Youve shown your true colours hays Im afraid.

A tax cheat,is a criminal.

Every day at my local newsagent, but in the way you mean, no absolutely not.
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Let know one be in doubt those that evade tax leads to others having to pay more into the system to cover for them.

Good speech from Osborne. More sensible than Ed Balls.

sticky - after 2 years i think not 3, but no matter ..... with reference to courses and similar, you're on the right track .... for sure, if you take a plumbing course, and i suspect it also applies to sparks and brickies, you then have to get field experience with a company before you are deemed sufficiently efficient and knowledgeable to go out on your own ..... problem is, none of these small trades-companies want or can afford to take on novices to train them up to provide competition.

if you have a decent even if basic education, then the problem is not as great, as there are quite a lot of companies offering apprenticeships, even if not in your preferred field - take a look at wyevale garden centres as an excellent example of a company offering lots of apprenticeships

I have remembered the way to get the unemployable back to work.




1) divide them into two classes


Class 1 will be defined as lower class and despicable

Class 2 will be defined as lower lower class and even more despicable.


They will be employed in road maintenance schemes.

Class 1 will have picks, shovels and wheel barrows and dig holes in the roads and take the rubbish to the rubbish heaps for storage.


Class 2 will have picks, shovels and wheel barrows and take their barrows to the storage heaps, fill their barrows and take their load to the roads and fill in the holes.


There is a 3rd class who will supervise the unemployable and well as a more despicable group of subcontractors who will falsify and guarantee the work at an extra fee for 4 weeks.

But this private work will have to be recompensed with payments back and fore under the table from tax payers' money, to council authorities to party funds.
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The con party has finally done it, we have now achieved the morality of a communist totalitarian state.

Osborne's speech was dismal, only pity his haircut wasn't about 9 inches lower.

Osbornes speech was dull and dreary what a boring little cretin he is.

I do admit Balls isnt the greatest of speakers though but its the content that counts from him. Hes a very brainy bloke and he also has Rachel Reeves to support him who is only second best behind Harold Wilson with Exam results at the LSE.

it really is stunning to amusing how some of you guys are incapable of writing sensibly and dispassionately ..... by getting very silly, you blunt or even destroy the point you may be trying to make .... clearly no one ever taught you that

Balls's speech had no content. Osborne has the advantage that he is actually the Chancellor and is doing an excellent job.