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THE TALK TO YOURSELF THREAD. (NOWT)     

goldfinger - 09 Jun 2005 12:25

Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 09:23 - 30344 of 81564

Morning exec, looks like a bad start to the day for Call Me Dave to be taking the stage at Manchester.

Having said that come voting day as per usual it will be the party on the day that offers more in pound notes that takes the prize.

MaxK - 02 Oct 2013 09:27 - 30345 of 81564

Looks like the tory's have given up on the next election.



A return for Boris MP is embraced by Cameron

Boris Johnson could return as an MP and even join the Cabinet, David Cameron said today, as he embraced his former rival ahead of the next election


By Peter Dominiczak, Political Correspondent
8:09PM BST 01 Oct 2013



The Prime Minister said that Mr Johnson could be “very good” for the Government, after hearing the Mayor of London back his leadership in a conference speech. He has said that he will support the mayor if he wants to stand as an MP in 2015.

It prompted speculation that the pair may have reached an understanding whereby Mr Johnson succeeds him as Conservative leader in exchange for remaining loyal in the build-up to the election. Following the speech today, the Prime Minister went backstage and hugged the mayor.

He later denied that any “deal” had been done but indicated that he would be prepared to give Mr Johnson a Cabinet position if he becomes an MP.

Despite the show of loyalty, Mr Johnson dropped hints that he has ambitions to lead the party.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/borisjohnson/10348538/A-return-for-Boris-MP-is-embraced-by-Cameron.html

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 09:31 - 30346 of 81564

Everyones turning on them Max.

Its the 2 at the top that need replacing.

MaxK - 02 Oct 2013 09:37 - 30347 of 81564

Agreed, altho I don't see how Osborne has any choice in the matter.

Haystack - 02 Oct 2013 10:39 - 30348 of 81564

Looking forward to Cameron's speech. Conservatives on target to win next election.

Fred1new - 02 Oct 2013 11:01 - 30349 of 81564

Hays,

So am I.

I wonder how many times he will mention the putrefying remnants of maggie.

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Your post 30334

Disagree.

Labour has moved to the centre and the con party has moved farther to the right than they would have considered under Thatcher.

This is an attempt to woo UKIP and BNP deserters back into their fold.

Besides, what do you define as socialism or toryism?
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I can see HQ trying trying to crank up their smear campaigns on the road again, as in the Kinnoch period.

Not sure that it will work this time round as it even leaves a feeling of distaste with some torrid voters.

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Actually, what I find amusing, is when then the tory gentry saying they have put money into tis and tat, without acknowledging that they are using taxpayers money and that is using what some see as "socialist" principles.

Of course they are hoping for more back.
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But so far the star of the conference has be FARAGE or Fauxpage.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 11:15 - 30350 of 81564

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL........ Hays Ill give you this you never give up even though you are sadly deluded and Im beginning to think you must have had learning difficulties as a child.

ExecLine - 02 Oct 2013 11:18 - 30351 of 81564

"Its the 2 at the top that need replacing."

Hey! That's at least two things we agree on, GF.

I'm a Boris fan and think he''d be OK for PM. He's a very, very clever guy and tells it mostly how it is. I think Cameron is too full of rhetoric.

But I'm not sure who I want for Chancellor.

Suggestions on a postcard, please.

MaxK - 02 Oct 2013 11:19 - 30352 of 81564


Exclusive: Government 'has its head in the sand' over extent of zero hours



Simon Neville


Wednesday 02 October 2013





The Government is failing to recognise the true extent of workers employed on controversial zero-hours contracts, by continuing to use data that is acknowledged by the Office for National Statistics – which publishes the statistics – to understate the problem, according to MPs and campaigners.


The ONS had previously said 250,000 workers were on the contracts, which leave workers with no guaranteed hours each week and subject to last-minute changes in working patterns. But it has since admitted that the data undershoots the true number, and some estimates put it at as high as 1 million.

Campaigners have argued that the "head in the sand" attitude to the extent of the problem could be behind the Government's failure to take action to defend employees' rights.

Companies using zero-hours contracts include Sports Direct, McDonald's and Burger King. Despite the ONS's concerns, the Government stated in a recent answer to MPs that it continues to believe the low number is correct.

The ONS's regulator, Sir Andrew Dilnot, chairman of the UK Statistics Authority, has promised it will change the way it calculates zero-hours contracts, admitting the estimates were probably too low as individuals do not necessarily realise contracts are "zero hours". The ONS will now start polling employers instead of just workers.

The shadow Business Secretary, Chuka Umunna, said: "Ministers have their heads in the sand and are refusing to admit the huge proliferation we've seen on their watch of growing insecurity at work. Labour has recently announced plans to outlaw zero-hours contracts where they exploit people. In contrast, out-of-touch ministers have failed even to properly investigate the issue or how widespread these contracts have become."

The insistence of the Department for Business that the 250,000 number is correct is also at odds with the admission of the Government's own care minister, Norman Lamb, that there are 307,000 workers on zero-hours contracts in the care sector alone.



more:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/exclusive-government-has-its-head-in-the-sand-over-extent-of-zero-hours-8852326.html

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 11:48 - 30353 of 81564

Poor speech from Cameron. Uninspiring nothing new. READING FROM A SCRIPT.

He says the land of opportunity for all!!!!!!!! who is he trying to kid.

Come up North Davey and tell that to all the unemployed kids up here.

Also very smug and patronising towards labour. That does you no good Camoron, wins you no freinds.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 11:49 - 30354 of 81564

ps, forgot to say .........looks like a big fat budgie.

Fred1new - 02 Oct 2013 11:52 - 30355 of 81564

Don't know why, but Cameron and the orchestrated clapping, stand ups and views of the audience and henchmen reminded me of :




Who are the scapegoats for a failing government?

Fred1new - 02 Oct 2013 11:57 - 30356 of 81564

Looks like Cameron is UKIP's sacrificial lamb.

I like mine with mint sauce.

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Like the joke about burning and effigy of him.

Pity it wasn't the real thing.

MaxK - 02 Oct 2013 11:58 - 30357 of 81564

It's no different at a No Lab Conference.

Fred1new - 02 Oct 2013 12:06 - 30358 of 81564

Land of Hope and Glory.

Eton Old Boys at the front.

Fix bayonets. Over the top and at them.

A party led by a donkey.

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What is the average age of the tory party followers?


goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 12:09 - 30359 of 81564

No mention of 'The Big Society' no mention of 'we are all in this together'.

Wont have picked up any new voters with this speech.

As ExecLine says bring on BORIS, the conservatives need his passion and personality.

Haystack - 02 Oct 2013 12:12 - 30360 of 81564

Good speech.

MaxK - 02 Oct 2013 12:13 - 30361 of 81564

lol :-)

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 12:21 - 30362 of 81564

ha ha he he ho ho..........Hays, hes a comedian that chap.

goldfinger - 02 Oct 2013 12:23 - 30363 of 81564

Iain Duncan Smith MP‏@IDS_MP10m
Wonderful speech by the Prime Minister. You can replay its best bits at venues across the nation. Vote Tory!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVkTQoqIcAArsTb.jpg:large
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