Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Teachers going on one day strikes are pathetic.

So why did they go on strike then come on give it a shot........

Hays.

In case you missed it

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Cameron LIED!

More important do you think the tory party's party was successful?
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Bye the way, do you think the Con. Party conference with Cameron and George in control showed it to be:

The party for Victory?

The party of Unity and Strength?

The party of Freedom?

The party of Honour?

The party of Work?

The party of Greater Britain?

The party of Peace?

Waiting Hays.

Fred..... The party of Bullshit and Lies.

"The party of Bullshit and Lies", thats who I usually vote for..!!

Shortie.

We are all allowed to make mistakes.

But one should learn by them and avoid repeating.
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But who would vote for a u-bend party?


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Well Im sorry about that Shortie but youve got about 15 months to do something about it, I suggest you get rid of the top 2 men and get someone who is closer to the real working class and then we might not have all these right wing clap trap policys threatening the younger and poorer people of this country.

You will be voted out if you dont.

Conservatives have policies that will produce successful businesses that will create employment. The only source of wealth and consequently tax revenues is business. The fatal flaw of socialism is that taken to its logical conclusion it stops business by state control and nationalisation. That approach suffocates growth and innovation.

What inventions and discoveries have come out of socialist countries?

I think I'll vote for this fella, he's demonstrating how to suck on the biggest titties in politics and get away with it..



Would you believe that he's also one of our countries most connected Masions, some even think he's now Londons acting grand wizard!!

Hays,

I see you are ducking answering the questions below:

Do you see the tory party as :

The party for Victory?

The party of Unity and Strength?

The party of Freedom?

The party of Honour?

The party of Work?

The party of Greater Britain?

The party of Peace?

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They seemed to be to be what the "Greater Leader" was suggesting to the public.

Perhaps, you are wiser than you sometimes appear.

Fred he wont answer, hes so ignorant.

I notice his pal Cynic has distanced himself from him ever since he admited he was a criminal Tax Evader.

Good on Cynic. Often argue with him but he has some common decency and I do deep down have respect for him, I cannot say the same for this sorry excuse for a human being.

And just why would Borris be so welcomed into the Conservative party to help Cameron win the next election??? Well maybe its to do with a rather large sum of money for the campaign, Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft and Master Mason...

Ironic the person Cameron could never control and who often showed him up being welcomed into the fold, not, money and power.. the mason code..

cynic rarely responds to hays' posts and even less frequently to yours ...... i've been out all day, so avoided the usual can of garbage posted here

If thats the case why are you camped out here all day everyday?.

Shortie youd have to get rid of Osbourne aswel. Boris deep down doesnt trust him.

because i work on my pc pretty much all day, and on this thread, i sometimes add my own bits and bobs, though unfortunately most get swamped within 30 minutes by yet another can of trash

Well if thats the case dont camp out here if you dont like us, camp out on your FTSE thread and add your own bits and bats their then.

Im sure all 3 residents will enjoy debating with you.

FTSE thread restricts itself to its title, but before i trundle home, i'll just repeat what i posted yesterday evening and to which i think there was no response

anyone any thoughts as to the justification for teachers striking?

anyone any thoughts as to why teachers should or should not be awarded pay rises according to results or as deemed warranted by their headmaster/mistress or the board of governors - as is the case in private industry?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/10/02/boris-johnson-phone-in_n_4028511.html?ir=UK&ref=topbar

Cynic Ive brought that up with Hays this afternoon and asked him why are they really going on strike.

Obviouly I havent had a reply from the Grand Master the man that knows it all but Ill tell you the real reason and not the gimmick headlines in the papers all papers aswel.

From my knowledge as an ex recent school governor the teachers would call any action off if .....
graded pay ie, pay grades according to results were dropped.

The system was like this the head could award so many grades from A to E, A being the top E obviously the bottom. The number of A to Es was allocated by the Local Authority on pupil count, ie the more pupils you had the more you would get and more funding in general you would get.

It was all started under LMS.... Local Management Of Schools where powers were handed down to schools rather than the LA having all the spending powers. Schools then decided what they spent on from their budget.

The pay additions were allocated to staff by the headteacher not neccesearily just on grade results, and the panel of school governors had to sign off the Headteachers recommendations by agreeng to them.

BUT this is where it gets messy some of the scool governors were actually teachers themselves or partners or freinds SO had a vested interest and it could cause all types of conflict.

Also some heads were accused of having favourites.

But the bigest bone of contention at my school was that the awards could not be split ie, an award was 1 unit and 1 unit had to be awarded so if you had 2 female teachers job sharing one of them could be dapper and the other useless but both got 50% of the award and other teachers detested this especialy male teachers.

Their was also the problem where teachers who had been given an award turned it down because they didnt want internal bitchy friction.

I actual live just around the corner from one of the teachers and I saw her last weekend where she confirmed it was the old chesnut which was at the centre of the industrial action.

Take the extra pay awards out and imo the teachers will call off any industrial action.