Fred1new
- 06 Jan 2009 19:21
Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?
If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?
Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?
What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:05
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limited memory too ..... do you refute the suggestion that hamas take a slice from goods smuggled into gaza through the tunnels?
i have little interest in hamas's political pretensions and posturing of injured innocence
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:12
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I have answered the question. I said that I have no idea if they do or not. I would doubt it, but who knows. You might as well ask the same sort of question of the Israelis who man the crossing posts with Gaza. There have been plenty of accusations of bribes necessary to allow the import of medical supplies and food.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:16
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i was merely asking about hamas and their band of thugs ..... and before your single cell gets overheated, i did not ever suggest in any way that i thought the israeli gov't was as band of angels either
i think you should change your handle to hayseed, or is it that from small hayseeds mighty haystacks grow?
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:23
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The majority of bribes are paid to the Egyptian middle men who arrange for the supplies to be delivered to the tunnels and not Hamas. there have been plenty of stories published even in Israel of Israel forces taking bribes at the crossings. There is plenty of evidence of Egyptian troops at the crossings even letting in arms to Gaza for a price.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:26
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05/07/2010 - 03:11 PM
Turkish minister of foreign affairs Ahmet Davutoglu warned that Turkey would sever all its relations with Israel if the latter did not apologize for its deadly attack on the Freedom Flotilla aid convoy that led to the killing of nine Turkish citizens.
Davutoglu demanded, according to Hurriyet newspaper issued on Monday, Israel to make an apology and accept the results of the international investigation committee.
The newspaper said that the minister declared that his country has now closed its airspace to ALL Israeli military flights, not just on a case by case basis and may expand the ban to include civilian flights as well.
The office of Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu stated for its part that Israel would never apologize for the attack, alleging it had the right to defend its citizens.
All indicators suggest that the tension between Turkey and the Israeli occupation state might escalate after Netanyahu stubbornly refused to apologize for killing the Turkish nationals during the attack.
Turkish columnist Ismail Kapan told the Palestinian information center (PIC) that the tension between the two countries would remain the center of attention at the present time because of Israel's intransigent attitude.
Kapan added that this position would prompt Ankara to harden its tone further against Israel, which in turn would significantly affect the relations between the two sides, noting that the biggest loser in this situation is Israel.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:28
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but i take it hamas do not have their wallets open for their significant slice - or at least not in your purblind eyes
can't be arsed to read your customary verbose diatribe beneath
Isaacs
- 05 Jul 2010 16:40
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Haystack - 02 Jul 2010 12:21 - 3008 of 3059
That was the sort of illogical response I would expect from a supporter of Israel. Suggest firing rockets at someone because you don't agree with their point of view.
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I wasn't suggesting that and I'm sure you know it. Perverse twisted logic. I was suggesting that if rockets were flying past your window you might not think a few rockets counts as "hardly anything" and that because "no damage is done" doesn't mean that it is ok.
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:44
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I suppose if you choose to live on someone else's land then that is what you can expect.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 16:44
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ah yes indeed ... rather like the english in wales
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 16:49
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Not exactly. Living in Wales would involve a certain legality and probably buying a property. Whereas what we are talking about is theft.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 17:10
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oh you are truly pathetic ..... (a) irony and (b) the welsh certainly didn't and often still do not agree with your asessment and (c) your philistines are often less indigenous than i am to england
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 18:07
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It matters not at all what you or I think. Israel is in for a very tough time from now on.
cynic
- 05 Jul 2010 18:11
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i don't care if israel loses world support (in may ways it deserves to) , nor if hamas and hezbollah get wiped from the face of he earth (which would be blissful)
the point was to highlight the general cupidity of all - and hamas will be assuredly as deeply involved as anyone
Haystack
- 05 Jul 2010 18:14
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European campaign receives 9,000 requests to participate in Freedom Flotilla 2
The Brussels-based European Campaign to End the Siege on Gaza said that there has been a large turnout for Freedom Flotilla 2, in terms of activists requesting to participate, and in terms of the number of ships.
The campaign, which was one of the founders of the Freedom Flotilla coalition, in a press statement on Monday, boasted that the new flotilla has a few surprises in store for Israeli authorities, one of which is that seven of the ships scheduled to participate in the flotilla are from European counties.
The European campaign added that it received around nine thousand requests forms from sympathizers from around the world since opening registration to participate in the second Freedom Flotilla, which is expected to set sail into the Gaza Strip within a few weeks, despite Israels May 31st raid against the first Freedom Flotilla, which left nine dead, others injured, and properties confiscated and damaged.
The first Freedom Flotilla carried 750 activists from more than 40 countries, including 44 Arab and European government and political officials, including ten Algerian MPs, more than 10,000 tons of medical supplies, building materials, and timber, and 100 ready-made houses in support of the tens of thousands of people who lost their homes in the Israeli war on Gaza in late 2008 and early 2009. The ships also carried 500 electric vehicles for the use of the disabled, especially since the recent war left nearly 600 disabled in Gaza.
Meanwhile, in Gaza, independent MP Jamal al-Khudari, Chairman of the Popular Committee against the Siege, has confirmed that Israel has publically announced that it will ease the aggravated siege on Gaza, without any mention of ending the root of the crisis.
Khudari, in a press release on Monday, noted that ending the blockade would require a series of measures on the ground, the most important of which would be to completely open commercial crossings to allow the flow of goods, and to put an end to the "restricted lists" policy, underlining that Gaza is need of all the supplies it was deprived of since the institution of the blockade four years ago.
He noted that Israel was still closing all Gaza commercial crossings except the crossing point at Kerem Abu Salem, the absorptive capacity of which is small when compared to the Strips needs, the biggest proof that the broadcasted ease of the siege is merely an attempt to ease international pressure.
Preparations by European, Arab, and Islamic parties for new ships headed for the Gaza Strip are well underway, Khudari confirmed, adding that scheduled departures will soon be announced.
Clubman3509
- 06 Jul 2010 08:44
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edited moneyam
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 06 Jul 2010 08:49
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clubman,
I have edited your posting as it was completely unacceptable. consider this a final warning,
Ian
cynic
- 06 Jul 2010 09:00
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hey clubby - please don't get yourself banned as that would be very stupid and childish of you ...... call me what names you like, for you know it worries me not one jot, but i for one would miss your your often bigoted views!
Clubman3509
- 06 Jul 2010 09:26
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Who gives a f***
Clubman3509
- 06 Jul 2010 09:28
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Give me my 200 sub back, and I promise I will go elsewhere
cynic
- 06 Jul 2010 09:48
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clubby - please don't be a tosser; there are enough of those here already