Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

A rum te tum a tum tum tum. ...........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10343241/Ukip-could-be-bigger-than-Tories-by-2018-says-think-tank.html

Hi ho hi ho its off to work we go, with a shovel and pick and a walking stick, hi ho hi ho.

A poll earlier this month found that 30 per cent of Tory backbenchers were “definitely not” attending the party’s annual gathering in Manchester.

David Davis, who fought Mr Cameron for the Conservative leadership, said that the “tame” conference revealed how the conversation between the party’s leadership and activists had “broken down”.

David Davis is still upset that he lost the leadership battle.

I think a lot of conservatives were also upset that Cameroon got the job over Davis.


And looking at the membership stats, they did something about it.

GF,


The tory party faithful have been conned by Cameron, Osborne and his Bullingdon Club Cronies




The country has been fragmented by their policies and inequalities in social opportunities been reduced by these con men.

The party should be called the Revival party for Elitism.


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To-days economic figures support what many are saying that Osborne is a failure and Cameron is falsifying the growth expectancies.

My guess is the public is realising this more and more rapidly and that Labour will be returned at the next general election with an overall majority.


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Poor old Fred. He has run out logical arguments again.

The membership were against David Davis. He lost in the poll of members.

Indeed indeed Fred just look at the manufacturing figures this morning and when did the IMF call anything right

Answer.........never.

The deluded tory boys will soon be having to move over to UKIP, its either that or the death of the Tory party as we know it.

UKIP is a one policy flash in the pan party.

Camoron once again ducked every question asked by Milly.

You can tell when hes losing he goes from red to purple.

Labour 9 Tories 1.

Camoron once again ducked every question asked by Milly.

You can tell when hes losing he goes from red to purple.

Labour 9 Tories 1.

It looks 10 nil to Cameron.

Mikibland looks weak. He could pass for an inept sixth former.

The trade union question was a gift to Cameron.

I will have to find Fred's old school photo , when he was a member of the Bullingershit club

He is still a member.

AlDs,

Are you the little guy holding them together or perhaps you are a pleb and they wouldn't they let you join.




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Private jet, morning suits and champagne for desert grouse shoot - move over Boris, it's... Bullingdon Club 2013

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2407406/Move-Boris--Bullingdon-Club-2013.html#ixzz2hEnLVOnn

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2407406/Move-Boris--Bullingdon-Club-2013.html

Work Programme Is Failing Disabled People, Says Government Adviser

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This article titled “Work Programme is failing disabled people, says government adviser” was written by Randeep Ramesh, social affairs editor, for theguardian.com on Tuesday 8th October 2013 06.00 UTC

Ministers should rethink the expensive support given to disabled people to find paid work as flagship employment schemes are failing the most vulnerable in society, according to a government adviser on disability.

Liz Sayce, the head of Disability Rights UK, says schemes such as the Work Programme, which cost hundreds of millions of pounds each year, are failing disabled people. Sayce argues that they should be replaced by more bespoke approaches “shaped by disabled people and employers, to achieve better career outcomes”.

According to the data released last month, more than 93% of disabled people on the Work Programme are failing to find long-term work. Just 6.8% of those referred to the programme in the latest three months have found long-term work.

Sayce, author of a key report to ministers that controversially advocated the closure of Remploy factories, which provided work for disabled people, described the Work Programme as “a non-work programme – at best it is heading for an 88% failure rate with people on out-of-work disability benefits. Some providers do very good work, but perverse incentives stop them spreading it. Disabled people want to play a more central role, working with employers, to secure job and career opportunities and use their talents, to the benefit of everyone.”

The charity also produced a report which surveyed 500 disabled people and found a gap between disabled people’s needs and the response from the Work Programme. For example, having a mentor who faces similar barriers can be invaluable but only 12% had been offered this, while 46% of respondents would like it.

The report, entitled Taking Control of Employment Support, calls for disabled people to have far more opportunities to gain experience and skills through work, “rather than endless ‘work preparation’. This could include work trials, work placements, traineeships, internships and apprenticeships”. The charity says placements could be paid for through personalised budgets – in essence taking disabled claimants out of the Work Programme and using the cash to fund disability employment advisers, employers and disabled people planning the support needed for the individual to get and keep the job.

“The Work Programme is projected to cost £3-5bn over five years, yet is not working for a core group: people living with disability or long-term health conditions. It is time to cut out the middleman, releasing the money that is presently being wasted and transferring control of employment support to those who know how it can be used best – disabled people and employers.”

A Department for Work and Pensions spokesperson said: “Previous schemes didn’t do enough for disabled people and those on sickness benefits, which is why we introduced the Work Programme to give tailored support to address individual barriers to work. Thousands of the hardest to help people have already found lasting work through the scheme.

“More generally we have protected the budget for disability employment services and recently kickstarted a two-year advertising campaign to support business to become more confident at recruiting disabled people as sometimes employer attitudes can be a barrier to work.”


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Camoron caught telling lies to parliament and the Nation again. This is now the 6th time he has beeen caught. Nobody in recent history as that track record.

Letter to David Cameron on marriage tax allowance - Chris Leslie


Chris Leslie MP, Labour’s Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury, has today written to David Cameron asking him to correct the record following his comments on Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance.

The full text of the letter is below:

Dear Prime Minister,

Today at Prime Minister’s Questions, in answer to a question from my colleague Tom Harris MP, you said that “all married couples paying basic rate tax will benefit” from your proposed Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance:

“What I can confirm is that all married couples paying basic rate tax will benefit from this move.”
David Cameron, Prime Minister’s Questions, 9 October 2013

As you ought to have known, this is absolutely false. HM Treasury’s own explanation of the policy confirms this:

“The policy benefits married couples, including same sex married couples and civil partners where one is a basic rate taxpayer (earns below £42,285 in 2015 to 2016) and one has unused personal allowance.”
HM Treasury, 30 September 2013, https://www.gov.uk/government/news/marriage-transferable-tax-allowance-announced-by-government

In other words, all married couples where both partners are paying tax at the basic rate will not benefit from the policy. And as the Institute for Fiscal Studies has pointed out, only 31 per cent of married couples will benefit from this policy.

Later, in a response to a point of order from Ed Balls MP, you said that the married couples’ allowance “is available to every basic rate taxpayer”:

"The point is the married couples’ allowance is available to every basic rate taxpayer."
David Cameron, Prime Minister’s Questions, 9 October 2013

This is clearly an absurd claim to make. The Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance is only available to basic rate taxpayers whose partners have unused personal allowance. According to HM Treasury, just four million married couples in this situation will benefit – compared to 8.9 million married couples where there is a basic rate taxpayer:

“Over four million couples will benefit from the Transferable Tax Allowance, including 15,000 couples in civil partnerships.”
HM Treasury, 30 September 2013, https://www.gov.uk/government/news/marriage-transferable-tax-allowance-announced-by-government

I would be grateful if you could correct the record, and confirm the following:

• Not all married couples paying basic rate tax will benefit from the Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance.
• Most married couples will not benefit from the Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance.
• The Marriage Transferable Tax Allowance is not available to every basic rate taxpayer.

I look forward to hearing from you.

Yours sincerely,

Chris Leslie MP
Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury

Ends

David Cameron today accused Ed Miliband of 'wanting to live in a Marxist universe' as the two leaders clashed over how to tackle crippling energy bills.

The Prime Minister accused the Labour leader of wanting to impose state control on markets while increasing costs for families with extra green levies