wilbs
- 07 Jul 2004 19:47
The main activity of Biofuels is the large scale production and exploitation of biodiesel and glycerine following the construction and commissioning of the initial plant.
Biodiesel is produced from vegetable oils and, as an environmentally friendly product, can make a significant contribution towards reducing green house gases and meeting Kyoto targets.

RNS's from BFC can be viewed at:
http://www.uk-wire.com/cgi-bin/index?search_type=3&words=bfc&go.x=17&go.y=8
http://www.biofuelscorp.com/
Big Al
- 24 May 2005 21:50
- 310 of 1184
Hi goal.
I've no position at present. Like the long term thing, but can't stick these in an ISA and I do little real share dealing outside that. Personally think this hit is well overdone, but you can't buck the market and any bad news by anyone is getting hammered just now. It's a time to keep the powder dry(ish!) and see what develops.
Patience or ease back in, methinks.
goal
- 24 May 2005 21:57
- 311 of 1184
Thank you for you thoughts.
simonpaynton
- 26 May 2005 11:06
- 312 of 1184
Can anybody explain this...
Yahoo says todays price is currently 94.75 +6.75 up 7.67%
Money AM says price is currently 91.00 +0.00 up 0.00%
It has been like this for a good few hours!!! Who is correct and why the price diff???
Ta
Big Al
- 26 May 2005 11:11
- 313 of 1184
Simon,
BFC was briefly at Yahoo's price before falling away. Might be delayed prices at Yahoo?
simonpaynton
- 26 May 2005 11:54
- 314 of 1184
Mmmm
NLR & SBT are the same, the prices dont match. Its not a 15 minute thing, BFC is now showing on Yahoo as +5.40%
O well, guess it will all pan out by the end of the day....
Stan
- 26 May 2005 12:06
- 315 of 1184
I suppose to get the real price of anything Is to go Into your broker and see what price they give.
Just a thought.
IanT(MoneyAM)
- 26 May 2005 12:14
- 316 of 1184
simonpayton,
The price from MoneyAM is the correct live price - it is currently at 91.5p up 0.5
Ian
deadfred
- 26 May 2005 12:25
- 317 of 1184
simon yahoo go for mid bid price m8 imho
i had same problem with a few of my shares
but if you must know the real price go to the stock exchange site its usually right imho
Bullshare
- 26 May 2005 12:36
- 318 of 1184
simon: Also be aware that Yahoo do not show mid price they display the last traded price which on their 20 minute delayed feed shows as 93.5p,when in fact they should use the mid for SEAQ stocks. Since the 93.5 trade there have 4 more declared.
Ours are real live marketprices!!! So we are showing bid/offer of 90/95p, mid of 92.5 up 1.5p which is 1.65% up 1.5p. Spot on
LsSE site is 20 mins delayed also.
So best to use our live prices:-)
simonpaynton
- 26 May 2005 12:48
- 319 of 1184
OK
So MoneyAM is the "correct" price, thats cool, as long as I know which one is correct. The bugger is that I have a ticker in my browser and I think that gets the data from Yahoo, so I get all excited and then look at moneyam and the price aint move :(
So Ian, next job, you guys doing a ticker for FireFox?? :)
Ta
hlyeo98
- 02 Jun 2005 10:28
- 320 of 1184
BFC is dirt cheap now...82p... BUY
wilbs
- 02 Jun 2005 10:35
- 321 of 1184
Beat me to it hlyeo98.
What a bargain to be had!!!
I am gonna release some funds elsewhere and topup.
wilbs
hlyeo98
- 03 Jun 2005 08:35
- 322 of 1184
Bought yesterday but woke up this morning...at 78p
crockham
- 07 Jun 2005 08:48
- 323 of 1184
Can anyone confirm the float price for this? I have in mind it was about 60p.
What are the chances of it going below this level?
tallsiii
- 07 Jun 2005 08:56
- 324 of 1184
The float price was 80p.
The recent share issue raised 30m pounds. With 45m shares in issue now that equates to 67p per share. So the market is not currently putting a high valuation on the work done and money spent to build the factory up until the fund raising.
aldwickk
- 07 Jun 2005 09:00
- 325 of 1184
How far are they behind with plant start up? and will they be importing most of the oil [ palm oil ] because of the space needed to grow enough rape seed in the UK.
RD
- 07 Jun 2005 09:15
- 326 of 1184
Their last report said the plant was a month behind but production would still start on schedule, in September. I believe the plan always was to use imported palm oil, but there's a lot of flexibility in what they could use if rape prices became low enough to become viable, it could be used instead (or as well as). A lot depends on subsidy levels (and encouraging more environmentally-friendly fuel must be increasingly high on the political agenda).
This now seems seriously oversold. Buyers now coming back in so hopefully today is the turning point.
crockham
- 07 Jun 2005 09:33
- 327 of 1184
thanks for that tallsiii.
so below 67 would make it rather good value!
stockdog
- 07 Jun 2005 11:44
- 328 of 1184
Not sure issue price is relevant anymore after what they have been through in terms of plant building and additional fund-raising. Stock is definitely out of favour big time and probably oversold, but the last time there was discussion of fundamentals here it seemed difficult for BFC to make any gross profit on its biodiesel - rather significant.
As to raw stock, they plan to use imported palm oil. However, interstingly enough in the long report from DOO on its annual results and fund-raising, in Bukino Faso DOO and BFC have entered into a JV. How long before BFC start using excess jatropha bean oil form DOO's ever-increasing plantations round the world (as I have suggested should happen previously).
In the same vein, how long before DOO's greater than expected production of rawstock justifies building one of BFC's refineries in China, India, S. Arfrica, S. Arabia, Madagasca, B/Faso, etc?
A merger between these two basically good companies could be wonderful to behold. Meanwhile, I am losing interest in BFC in favour of DOO's evidently much more assured management and development.
Wish I'd sold all my holding at the peak instead of just one third - (as my friend, Hindsight, claims to have done!)
sd
belisce6
- 07 Jun 2005 15:45
- 329 of 1184
am on a similar wavelength of thinking stockdog.....
as DOO has the plantations, but does not seem to have enough refineries (those little things - albeit portable; compared to BFC's massive one) - although i think that they have stated that their plantations are also for the sale of the jatropha seeds...
if BFC was to use DOO's jatropha then it would simply be a matter of whether BFC could make enough after paying a "competitor" for it's fuel supply; and whether DOO would make enough out of selling some of it's jatropha (rather then processing it themselves) to a competitor....
the rape seed oil is too expensive, and even with massive tax concessions is still up there in terms of cost; i read in an 'australian renewable fuels' prospectus that palm oil was not good for colder climates (??) = european winters ??......and DOO seems to be pushing it's jatropha all over the world, leading one to think that it has already been well and truly tested.....
would make a lot of sense and perhaps even create a medium term biodiesel monopoly if the 2 teamed up firmly; such as DOO buying a sizable chunk of BFC, and perhaps having BFC to build another one or two massive refineries (such as the one in UK) in Europe, and then BFC supply europe with biodiesel made from DOO's jatropha.......whilst DOO continues placing it's smaller portable refineries in countries of smaller population etcetc.....
although tis just my imagination wandering - stranger things have happened.....