Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

PS.

Dreams.

In my life I have had to reconsidered my opinion and position many times and that is the reason for my survival.

Hays,

I have just extracted the following from :

Fascism
The principles and organization of the Italian Fascists, the Italian Fascist movement; a similar nationalist and authoritarian movement in another country; loosely right-wing authoritarianism.

Nazism /
The political doctrines evolved and implemented by Adolf Hitler and his followers, esp. those relating to racial superiority; the German Nazi movement; gen. right-wing, esp. racist, authoritarianism.





I would suppose I was being lazy, but the sentiment is the same.

Imprecision, perhaps.

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In practice the masses are governed to their disadvantage by those who consider themselves the elite, or of the chosen.

" Its good to see Rachel Reeves policy document today aswel, ive been in touch with Rachel" - blah, blah, blah. I bet Rachel was absolutely rivetted - if she could actually make out what you were trying to say. What is the word "overal", do you mean overhaul or is it something you wear?

Dave Camoron‏@EtonOldBoys1h
The Red Cross is providing Emergency Food Aid in the UK, for the 1st time since the Second World War, Just rejoice at that news #votetory

I think gf has bin at the holy water.

Wish I had Max. Taking ibuprofen for my shoulder and arm.

Which hand you use?

I'm not sure why the Red Cross suddenly think they need to provide Emergency Food Aid to the UK, as consumers seem to have plenty of money to spend.

"(Reuters) - British retailers are set to enjoy their best growth in Christmas sales since the financial crisis, according to a report published on Monday which forecast consumers would spend at least 2 billion pounds more than in 2012.

Market research specialist Verdict forecast spending in the fourth quarter would rise 2.2 percent from the same period in 2012 to 88.4 billion pounds - the best since 2007 when fourth-quarter spending grew 3.1 percent to 82.4 billion pounds.

Improving consumer confidence and job creation, along with a pick-up in the housing market, were some of the reasons cited by Verdict, which also pointed out that a baby boom during the recession meant consumers now have more children to buy Christmas presents for.

I knew he was on drugs. Ibuprofen - very addictive and has a degenerative effect on the brain cells if taken regularly. Sore shoulder and arm - he needs to give up fishing. I know it's bad manners to refer to him in the third person, but I've been squelched along with Haystack and Cynic.

If you work hard, and do your best...



Betrayal of elderly on social care costs

Thousands could be forced to sell homes despite earlier Government assurances



By John Bingham, and Peter Dominiczak

10:00PM BST 14 Oct 2013



Thousands of pensioners will be forced to sell their homes to pay for care despite Government promises to the contrary, it has been claimed.


The Coalition was accused of betraying the elderly by introducing a means test for access to a flagship scheme designed to prevent anyone having to sell their property while they are still alive to pay for care either residential or in their own home.


When Norman Lamb, the care minister, launched a government consulation paper in July, he said: “These reforms bring reassurance to millions of people by ending the existing unfair system so no one need face unlimited care costs or the prospect of selling their home in their lifetime.”


The paper promised a “universal” scheme enabling pensioners with diminishing funds to defer care costs until their death.


But a leading authority on elderly care has told the House of Lords how the fine print of the Government’s plans showed that thousands of elderly people with modest assets would not qualify until they had run down their savings and other assets — such as valuable possessions — to below £23,250.



more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10378848/Betrayal-of-elderly-on-social-care-costs.html

DB - you may think of yourself as one of the chosen people, but i'm afraid that belongs to my gang - and seemingly "the one who shall not be named" has not seen fit to condemn me to the outer reaches

Cynic and Haystack not filtered. 'A' listers imo although we dont see eye to eye.

Doodlebug certainly a 'B' lister 2nd rate punk who is filtered. Poor lad as aspirations but to no avail.

The Clangers are back... Some say they never went away and have been residing on this thread all the time -): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24523203

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UKIP giving votes back to the Tories.......

electionista ‏@electionista 15h
UK - ICM/Guardian poll: CON 34%, LAB 38%, LDEM 12%, UKIP 8%


Waken up NIGEL.

Cynic,

I have often been chosen.

The word does not belong to you or "your friends" alone.

Try to imagine what it feels like to be picked for Wales to play at the Arms Park now called the Millennium Stadium.

Or even to get a ticket for Wales beating England at the same park.


8-)


Ps

I am supposing that you do have friends.

i'm afraid my saturday name is norma :-)

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sticky - you know how i hate these thrice daily poll updates, but the above comes as no great surprise, and i would not be at all surprised if, come the real thing, to see ukip's slice being sliced much lower ..... the public will always squeak and squawk until it's time to put money with mouth ...... the french, very stupidly and very much to their cost, voted in the heron to rule their pond, and of course now bitterly rue the day

Manuel,

Your analogy of the heron and the pond could be well applied to Cameron and the London pool.

Although Osborne and Boris seem to be casting their lines in China where the Cormorants usually do the fishing.

I am not sure which is Boris or George, but would suggest Boris has tied something around Georgie Boy's neck.

Funny, I seem to remember that recent post as well. Haystack must have been forgiven then.:-)

Haystack- 11 Oct 2013 15:44 - 30919 of 31053

gf
I seem to remember a recent post saying you had squelched me for life.

Senators say debt, shutdown deal is near

Susan Davis and David Jackson, USA TODAY 9:48 p.m. EDT October 14, 2013



Senate leaders are hoping to secure a deal that can pass the House of Representatives. The Treasury Department has said the national debt ceiling must be raised by Thursday.


Story Highlights

Senators are discussing deal to raise debt ceiling, end government shutdown
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said a deal was possible Tuesday


WASHINGTON — Senate leaders said Monday they are close to an agreement to reopen government and avoid an unprecedented U.S. debt default before the Thursday deadline.

"We hope with good fortune and the support of all you (senators) —recognizing how hard this is for everybody — that perhaps tomorrow will be a bright day," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Monday evening on the Senate floor.

A flurry of negotiations occurred throughout the day as Reid and his Republican counterpart, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, engaged with each other, their own members, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and White House staff on the terms of a deal to end the budget impasse, which has kept the government partially shutdown since Oct. 1.

McConnell said Monday morning, "I share his optimism that we will get a result that is acceptable to both sides."

The draft proposal still under negotiation would approve a stopgap funding bill to reopen government through Jan. 15; suspend the debt ceiling until Feb. 7; and create the framework for formal budget negotiations to conclude by Dec. 15 with long-term recommendations for funding levels and deficit reduction.

The proposal does not include any significant reforms to the Affordable Care Act, which is what House Republicans were originally seeking in the budget stand-off. House Republicans initially refused to approve a stopgap spending bill unless it delayed or defunded President Obama's signature health care law.

Democrats have said they are willing to discuss ways to reform the law — including the repeal of a 2.3% tax on medical devices enacted to help pay for Obamacare — in the budget negotiations but not in the short-term spending/debt deal.

It is unclear whether Boehner can support the proposal, or if he will allow a vote on it if a majority of House Republicans oppose it. However, House Republicans ceded negotiations to Senate leaders after Obama rejected Boehner's most recent terms for a short-term debt ceiling increase.

Boehner met with McConnell on Monday and House Republican leaders met privately afterward, but they have not weighed in publicly on the talks. House Republican leaders are scheduled to meet Tuesday morning with their members.

There appears to be more support among Republicans in the Senate to end the shutdown and raise the debt ceiling. Senators in both parties have raised concerns of possible economic upheaval if the U.S. breaches the deadline Thursday to raise the nation's $16.7 trillion debt limit so the nation can continue to borrow money to pay for spending Congress has already approved.

"I've talked to several billionaires who used to be Republican supporters that have said they believe the markets will act in a very negative fashion unless we act," said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., "I'm urging all of our Republicans to recognize reality as to where we are in this situation."


Congressional leaders had planned a mid-afternoon meeting with Obama at the White House on Monday, but it was postponed so that the Senate could continue negotiations. Instead, White House deputy chief of staff Rob Nabors came to Capitol Hill to meet with lawmakers.

"I think we are (close). I really do. I'm very encouraged and we'll see. We're just waiting for this evening and we'll see what comes about and see if there's a process to get this thing done," said Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., who has been part of a bipartisan group of senators trying to find compromise.

Obama on Monday visited Martha's Table, which serves low-income families in Washington, where he spoke with furloughed federal workers affected by the shutdown who have volunteered at the food bank.

Obama denounced what he called Republican "brinkmanship."

"There are going to be differences between the parties," Obama said. "There are going to be differences in terms of budget priorities, but we don't need to inflict pain on the American people, or risk the possibility of America's full faith and credit being damaged just because one side is not getting its way."