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Heritage Oil, now on the main market near you ! (HOIL)     

required field - 04 Apr 2008 22:45

Another newcomer to the main market...anybody any idea what the production figures are ?

ptholden - 26 Jan 2011 18:28 - 312 of 593

The Investors Room seems to bb turning into a 'let's catch a falling knife club!'

Comments like 'it's time to buy / fallen too far' etc, etc are usually proven wrong. I would suggest those of you who believe that it can't go any further up or down should try paper trading FX pairs for a month or so, only then will you really understand the concept of it can't fall any further or rise anymore - accompanied by squeals of it's so over-bought or over-sold.

It might stop you losing a few fingers in the future!

gibby - 26 Jan 2011 21:09 - 313 of 593

well this is another to add to good rns - sp tanks list - the only question is when is the next news due here? if recent form of others to go by in recent days this will drop some more tomorrow against all logic - logic says it should bounce so it probably wont!!! what a week

gas?!
gla

skyhigh - 26 Jan 2011 23:22 - 314 of 593

Yeah .... it's pants for me this week also. ie,, Hoil, OTC, TQC and some others...hopefully it's just a tree shake week also and my shares will continue thier upward momentum in the next few weeks.. also waiting for good news on ABH, RGM & RRR to name but a few!

gibby - 27 Jan 2011 11:38 - 315 of 593

apparently from the other side...

'Any chartist worth his or her salt would have got out of HOIL in the area that I have circled on this chart....

http://www.screencast.com/users/Chrishowlett/folders/Jing/media/ad133c41-f2a3-48b6-9bda-14781bc49c62

HOIL had hit the top of its channel.... and therefore the Risk / Reward ratio was not in favour of the bulls IMO.

This is where emotion's and greed would have caught a LOT of people out..... waiting for the miran results....

Yet the market professionals KNEW already..... that much is evident. Because If the market professional had carried on buying (or rather not started selling - like they did).... then HOIL would have probably breached the upper channel line.

The way top played that would have been to have accepted the fact that the Risk Reward ratio was not in favour of longs. Sold the stock unemotionally at the channel line (where I have circled).... and then waited. Only prepared to buy back if the stock smashed through the upper channel line (so basically buying back in on a breakout).

This would have protected a good chartist from the up coming drop.

But those people who did too much research on the company..... they would have been greedy. Because the human brain will seek out positive news and remember it..... and discount negative news (when they are invested). SO they would have hung in for too long. They would not have recognised the cold hard facts of probability!

But even so...... HOIL will just go to the bottom of the channel (probably)..... and at some stage rise back up to top of it again. So no great drama..... just cycles..... and some people locked in for a bit.'

HARRYCAT - 27 Jan 2011 11:49 - 316 of 593

No disrespect to that poster, as I am sure they know what they are talking about, but hindsight is a great thing and the chartists always seem to point out that certain indicators were obvious after the event, never before!

HARRYCAT - 27 Jan 2011 11:58 - 317 of 593

Arbuthnot's note:
The company provided a comprehensive slide pack detailing the technical and commercial aspects of its operations in Kurdistan. What was evident from the subsequent presentation was that the Miran field is significantly more complicated than previously thought. In essence, what we thought to be a billion barrel oil field is actually a relatively large gas field with shallow gas; a very different proposition for both Heritage and the investment community.
The company made good efforts to highlight that the gas aspect of this field was commercial; however, we are generally sceptical regarding the health of global gas market. The IEA has forecast that the global gas market in 2011 will be oversupplied, by 200bcm in 2011. It also forecasts that the global gas market will continue to be oversupplied until 2020.
In the presentation, Heritage illustrated potential monetisation routes for their gas into Turkey and into Europe via the Nabucco pipeline. However, this pipeline has yet to receive final approvals which could be gained in Q1 2011.
Should Heritage go down the export pipeline route, it will be locked into a multi-billion dollar project for at least five years. This scenario sounds a lot like where they were with Uganda two/three years ago, but selling Kurdish gas is not going to be as easy a proposition as selling Ugandan oil. Instead, we feel that the more likely scenario is Heritage conducting more exploration and appraisal work in 2011/12, with the hope of building the oil resource base. Assuming successful results from this programme, the ultimate goal of selling the asset thereafter could be a more attractive exit than development. We do not feel that they have the appetite to pursue a long and uncertain development project.

HARRYCAT - 27 Jan 2011 12:21 - 318 of 593

Note from Matrix:
"Heritage may have discovered one of the largest gas fields in Iraq in the last 20-30 years, but we think its timetable to first production (2015) is very optimistic, and underestimates the challenges of gas monetisation in Kurdistan/Iraq. On our valuation, the economics of gas development are substantially less attractive than those of a similar-sized oil field. Consequently, we are downgrading Heritage to REDUCE from BUY, cutting our target price to 310p from 580p.

First production in 2015 is unlikely: In our view, the companys expectation of delivering first gas production in 2015 is too optimistic and underestimates the complexity of regional pipeline projects. The Nabucco project requires a set of complex intergovernmental agreements (involving several countries) and funding arrangements that may take years to finalise before construction can begin. Connecting to the Turkish pipeline system could be a more realistic solution, but it would require substantial investment to de-bottleneck the current pipeline system in Turkey in order to deliver Iraqi gas to the Western part of the country, where most of the industrial demand is."

cynic - 27 Jan 2011 12:25 - 319 of 593

so if that chap was such a smartarse, did he go short?

gibby - 27 Jan 2011 17:54 - 320 of 593

hc - well researched - even though the gas find is potentially huge would have swapped it for less oil any day imo - i am not sure what they gonna do with all that gas!?

gibby - 27 Jan 2011 17:55 - 321 of 593

cynic - you would think so wouldnt you - strangely enough he did not mention

Balerboy - 27 Jan 2011 18:11 - 322 of 593

Gibby ask cynic what he does with all his gas............he might have the answer.,.

cynic - 27 Jan 2011 18:35 - 323 of 593

i was and remain an old fart, so now you know

gibby - 27 Jan 2011 20:33 - 324 of 593

lol balerboy & cynic - have a good evening chaps

irlee57 - 15 Feb 2011 14:30 - 325 of 593

your opinions would be much appreciated on this share.

HARRYCAT - 15 Feb 2011 14:47 - 326 of 593

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irlee57 - 15 Feb 2011 14:54 - 327 of 593

the chart says it all, but even with the gas find rns it suddenly has'nt become a bad company overnight.

cynic - 15 Feb 2011 15:05 - 328 of 593

that was also my thought, but the market seems to believe otherwise
i've posted the 5 year chart below, and for what it's worth, one would surely think that a bounce is seriously o'due - but are we/you brave enough?

Chart.aspx?Provider=EODIntra&Code=HOIL&S

irlee57 - 15 Feb 2011 15:15 - 329 of 593

that is the $64000 question.

hlyeo98 - 15 Feb 2011 15:16 - 330 of 593

It takes a brave man to catch a falling knife.
In fact, I'm tempted to short it looking at the graph.

irlee57 - 15 Feb 2011 15:18 - 331 of 593

there is a minor bounce on at the moment.
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