Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Hays were looking for fully costed ideas not political point scoring.

Ive also come up with a added on way to fund my idea.

As were talking about redistribution of work from South to North Id place a Regional SUNSHINE TAX on all tax payers south of Watford for a four year period.

I think this only fair as you get the benefits of far more sunshine hours and warmer temperatures down south and therfore added feel good factor than we do up north. This adds to your standard of living.

This would also help to equalise policy up with water as the souths water is mostly piped from the Northern counties, and yes i know some will say it cannot be practicaly done,but just look at cold weather payments, that as worked across the country when temperatures fall below a certain level.

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Move south then. lol

No head on pints of ale, no chance.

Why not tax Spain, Italy, Greece etc within the EU as they have far more sunshine. Maybe people should just accept where they live. Don't forget it costs us a lot more to live in the south.

No it doesn't.

lol

Hays...........LOL LOL LOL LOL..........check * on my last post, and further up thread. post 31231

yes it does. :-))

A good source of revenue would be to tax people who fish for ahobby. There were approx 6m people who have fished for fresh water fish in the last two years. A tax on whippets, pigeons and a tax on all that unused land such as the Yorkshire moors.

How many have you had tonight H/S?

People think it always rains in Manchester. Not true though I admit it's the only town in the country with lifeboat drill on the bus routes.

LOL, he still hasnt caught on. Too much wine.

Was just pulling your leg hays.

This is getting silly, so I will bid you all goodnight -):

Night Stan.

Off myself to watch Question Time.

See ya all tomorrow.

Highlights

An estimated 5.5m British people live permanently abroad – almost one in 10 of the UK population. The emigration of British people has happened in cycles over 200 years. The trend is now rising again: some 2,000 British citizens moved permanently away from the UK every week in 2005.

This unique project aims to explain where people have gone. On the regional and country pages you will find data on what we know about that part of the world. For more on the methodology and the key issues about emigration, click on the links at the bottom of these pages.
BRITS ABROAD: THE TOP COUNTRIES
Country name Resident Britons
Australia 1,300,000
Spain 761,000
United States 678,000
Canada 603,000
Ireland 291,000
New Zealand 215,000
South Africa 212,000
France 200,000


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According to the Office for National Statistics, the number of British citizens who have moved abroad has risen by a fifth under the Coalition, reaching 154,000 last year.
Separate figures, published by the OECD, show that almost 1.3million Britons with university-level education are living abroad, more than any other developed economy.
Nick de Bois, secretary of the 1922 committee of backbench MPs, says Britain has a "sales job to do" to convince talented professionals not to leave the country.
He said: "We live in a very mobile, global market people can look around and they can judge where they want to go. My concern is that people are putting their own interests first and looking to beyond the European Union.
"We have to convince those people, who we have invested so much in, to make Britain their first choice. We have to continue to drive lower taxes, we have to keep driving the change and reform in our public services."

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I think we should repatriate the tax dodgers, but leave the rest where they are.

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The previous discussion has been aimless.

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Start with defining what one would think is the "goal" you see appropriate for the UK and its inhabitants.

Also, considered whether you decide on that goal is for your own personal benefit or based on personal prejudices.

Perhaps, if you can define the above there might be a pathway to it.

Ok, so educated people are bailing out, whilst uneducated non English speakers are being bailed in.


Result?

Justin Welby, Archbishop Of Canterbury, Tells Faith Leaders The Religious Are Not 'Mad'


Of course they are

Fred says...." The previous discussion has been aimless"................ends.

Sorry Fred I dont think it as at all.

We are looking at probably 1 million young kids on the dole, thats the official figure, probably more like double that if you look at those doing part time work.

We have a drastic problem in this country and that requires drastic action.

Both the Torys and labour have said in one way or another these youngsters have to work for their benefits or get nothing.

So where are these 1 million jobs going to come from and where will they be situated.???????????????????????.

I have put forward my ideas on what should be done its a one off and yes does include a lock on immigration for a certain number of years, but it certainly does not fall into this......."goal is for your own personal benefit or based on personal prejudices.".............ends.

Now if you can come up with a better model than the one I have outlined earlier this evening and you roughly cost it (and I dont mean one liners like hays and cynic have put forward) I would be all ears and not biased in any way.

We cannot just leave young people doing nothing day in day out and waiting for so called experts to come up with ideas like re-distributing wealth from pensioners too them.

These young people will be losing all self respect and be outcasts in the social arena. What future do they have to live for.

Elizabeth Windsor ‏@Queen_UK
People of the UK, take the day off. Have a long weekend. If anyone asks, tell them the Queen said it was ok. #Friday

The implications of not being able to believe the police are almost too awful to contemplate


By Daniel Hannan Politics Last updated: October 18th, 2013



That embarrassing Labour poster…



The cops in Luton have a lot to answer for. Their calamitous decision to protect a demonstration by some Islamist cretins against returning British soldiers, and to crack down on counter-demonstrators, was instrumental in creating the English Defence League. In the current issue of the Spectator, Douglas Murray talks to Tommy Robinson, who has left the organisation he founded, and concludes that that the salon owner was motivated throughout by a grievance against police double standards.

We all have our favourite examples of foolish policing: the baton-charges against pro-hunting demonstrators in Parliament Square, where anti-capitalist agitators had earlier been allowed to tear up the turf and deface Churchill’s statue; the arrest of the man who called a police horse “gay”; the charging of the dummkopf who burned a Koran in his own garage – rather stretching the definition of a “public order offence”; the arrest of Damian Green; the conspiracy against Andrew Mitchell.

Sometimes, poor policing has truly catastrophic results. The rioting that disfigured our cities in 2011 was triggered by the Met’s decision to stand aside as protesters in Tottenham ransacked shops. Why did they not go in hard at the beginning? Possibly because, after years of racism awareness training, they approached the issue in terms of community relations rather than simple lawlessness. As if to underline the point, during the ensuing disorder, while the Met was screaming for help, neighbouring Surrey Police found time to charge one of my constituents with racial harassment because she had a golliwog doll in her window.

At this point, some Leftie readers might be saying, “Well now you know how it feels, Tory Boy. Damian Green and Andrew Mitchell have been on the receiving end of what black kids used to go through every week without anyone making much fuss”. If this is so, it surely makes matters worse. Two sets of prejudiced policing don’t cancel each other out; they magnify each other.

L’affaire Mitchell is shocking, not because rozzers are shown to have lied – rozzers, after all, were shown to have lied about Ian Tomlinson, Jean Charles de Menezes, the Hillsborough victims and others – but because of the extraordinary self-confidence of the officers involved, who assumed they could bring down a Cabinet minister as easily as fitting up a petty crook.



More: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100241934/the-implications-of-not-being-able-to-believe-the-police-are-almost-too-monstrous-to-contemplate/