Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

Wheres Hays????.

You can find him on the TWIT thread.

http://www1.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2013/10/20/with-so-much-difference-between-the-weeks-polls-the-best-bet-is-to-rely-on-icm/

So many polls – so little clarity

With so many different pictures being recorded in the polls in the past week my normal recourse is to revert back to what I regard as the gold standard – the monthly phone poll from ICM.

The firm was the top British pollster at three of the past four general elections and got the AV referendum right down to one decimlal point.

This came out on Monday night and had CON 34, LAB 38, LD 12, UKIP 8. My sense is that is about the best reflection at the moment of where we will end up in eighteen months time – but, of course, things can change ,

You don't mean the labour party will be further ahead.

Say 15-20%



8-)

Hays,

Don't worry party HQ are working out what to give away next to solve their problem.


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Whatever way you look at it, it wont be Call me Dave leading the next gov.


Which is good and bad, depending on the outcome. Personally, I think we are fooked!

the only immigrants the UK get are low life scum with no money
or just released from prison .

the government says we need the immigrants to pay taxes to pay the pensions
well who is going to pay theirs will we need another 20m to come to pay future pensioners .

its madness NHS SHCOOLS SERVICES ARE ALL BREAKING DOWN

IN MOST PLACES IT IS NOW 21 DAYS TO SEE THE DOCTOR
WHAT IS GOOD ABOUT IMMIGRANTS NOTHING THEY ARE RAPING THE UK

UKIP WILL BE THE SECOND PARTIE the CONS ARE FINISHED

i think that most sensible people have long been in favour of immigration being limited, typically by the imposition of the australian points system or similar
up to now, successive gov'ts have pretty much ignored what the grassroots constituents want in this respect, and allowed pretty much an open door policy, whatever their protestations to the contrary, and the whirlwind is starting to gather

however, to pretend that uk could have coped perfectly well without immigrants, or perhaps without allowing any more (s suggested by MrT and GF) is just nonsense and does not remotely stand up to scrutiny - e.g. who mans the NHS?

i have intentionally left aside the question of genuine political refugees - e.g. the ugandan asians in the 70s - and the apparent dismal failure of the uk border agency to stop and turn back known undesirables

Cynic again misquoting....ohhh dear.

lets get it clear immigration as cost the uk billions and does nothing for the uk
if we got out of the EU and sent back all migrants and illegals the UK would be a better place .

vote UKIP and get us out

the FRENCH are pushing the immigrants in to the uk they use the police to
stop them settling to sleep and move them on ever night and tell them to fcuk off home
and the UK says nothing the UK is the only country in the EU that abides the EU laws fact not fiction the EU is FCUKED we want out

quite possibly sticky, but what?
did you not say that you wanted all immigration stopped dead for 4 years?

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MrT - please take the medication; perhaps it will allow you to self-edit just once

TANKER.....question. What if all these countries that had Brits on their land decided to send them all back.

What do you think would happen?.

the germans would lose a lot of benefit claimants for starters - or so i think i read

Ahhhhhhhhhh now youve added the 4 year in and you ask who would run the NHS, well most jobs not all are the unskilled jobs in the NHS taken by immigrants, why not replace them with the young unemployed who NOW have to work to get benefits?

Got to remember the NHS survived without all these foreign workers during the 60s and 70s.

10,000 Brits claiming in Gerrmany because not as much red tape they reckon.

sticky - please edit your post so it makes sense and i'll then answer .... the last part is only partially accurate too; the SS Windrush generation were more than helpful to the NHS and other important areas where uk lacked the manpower etc

Ahhhh the young unemployed? great idea GF, just one problem how do you get them out of A@E on friday and saturday night to nurse you sunday morning? Sorry couldn't resist that one :O)

more seriously, would today's unemployed youth actually be prepared to take on this low paid and relatively menial work - that is without the persuasion of no benefits if you don't!