Thought Id start this one going because its rather dead on this board at the moment and I suppose all my usual muckers are either at the Stella tennis event watching Dim Tim (lose again) or at Henly Regatta eating cucumber sandwiches (they wish,...NOT).

Anyway please feel free to just talk to yourself blast away and let it go on any company or subject you wish. Just wish Id thought of this one before.

cheers GF.

the germans would lose a lot of benefit claimants for starters - or so i think i read

Ahhhhhhhhhh now youve added the 4 year in and you ask who would run the NHS, well most jobs not all are the unskilled jobs in the NHS taken by immigrants, why not replace them with the young unemployed who NOW have to work to get benefits?

Got to remember the NHS survived without all these foreign workers during the 60s and 70s.

10,000 Brits claiming in Gerrmany because not as much red tape they reckon.

sticky - please edit your post so it makes sense and i'll then answer .... the last part is only partially accurate too; the SS Windrush generation were more than helpful to the NHS and other important areas where uk lacked the manpower etc

Ahhhh the young unemployed? great idea GF, just one problem how do you get them out of A@E on friday and saturday night to nurse you sunday morning? Sorry couldn't resist that one :O)

more seriously, would today's unemployed youth actually be prepared to take on this low paid and relatively menial work - that is without the persuasion of no benefits if you don't!

O/T ......BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking 8m
Energy firm #Npower increases UK electricity bills by 9% & gas bills by 11%....ends

barstewards.

600000 migrants claiming benefits in the uk
the we have 1.3 million illegals on benefits

these are gov figures not mine .

uk doctors having to leave the uk
because of foreign doctors being taken on to save money
madness and some are not fit to be doctors they have false papers
putting lives at risk

Cyners where their is a will their is a way, and YES they would have to. No ifs and buts.

Do you really think their parents would keep them at home if they werent getting any benefits.

Its a radical idea to fix both unemployment and understaffing in the NHS.

TANKER.....we have 1.3 million illegals on benefits

thats not correct....


but their is some truth to this........
foreign doctors being taken on to save money
madness and some are not fit to be doctors they have false papers
putting lives at risk

the government are happy PENSIONERS will die saving them money .
energy rises are good news for CLEGG @ CAMERON

freeze the old to death better than paying them to fill the hospitals .

in the last 3 years their has been 211 new coal fired power stations been built
and the uk closing good stations . the LAB CON LIBS have fcuked up the uk

get them out

gf it is fact over 210 000 in Birmingham alone do you not read the news
bimingham is costing the gov millions in benefits most non EU people

it was headlines a few weeks back

Compulsory euthanasia at 65 would probably be a good idea.

Fortunately, I'm still only 32, but I'm wondering how old did Fred say he was?

TANKER you say Illegals, to get benefits you have to have a NI number.

Do you mean Illegals awaiting a decision or are you meaning immigrants here legally?.

gf lets be clear the uk pay benefits to illegals fact
BIRMINGHAM have 210.000 non EU immigrants on benefits
it was big headlines a few weeks back stating action was needed

All part of the plan.

TANKER I think the figure must cover the range of benefits eg, family with 3 kids 3 claims and therefore makes the figures look a lot worse than they really are.

Still cant see how they are illegals, illegals dont have a NI number.

Wonder if they are including emergency assistance at local council level and adding that into the figures.

energy companies wanted to put up their prices in july and august the
ENERGY MINISTER would not allow them till after September because of pushing up Septembers inflation figs that raise pensions .
inflation to go to over 3.3% by xmas

gf I just saw and listened to it on the tv .

any person in the uk can claim benefits to live
by going to the dhss in person as you should know

sticky - 31407 - i wonder what fred's militant unions would have to say about that?

personally, i think enforced community work is a better and more workable idea .... at least there would not be lives put at risk, which would be a def possibility with at least some of these benefit claimants if they were working in hospitals