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Israeli Gaza conflict?????? (GAZA)     

Fred1new - 06 Jan 2009 19:21

Will this increase or decrease the likelihood of terrorist actions in America, Europe and the rest of the world?

If you were a member of a family murdered in this conflict, would you be seeking revenge?

Should Tzipi Livni and Ehud Olmert, be tried for war crimes if or when this conflict comes to an end?

What will the price of oil be in 4 weeks time?

cynic - 18 Jul 2010 14:23 - 3146 of 6906

crimes, massacre et al are all typical of inflammatory rhetoric, whereas the other side are always heroic, peace-loving, cuddly-bears ... some things never change, including the gullibility of some to believe the rubbish

fahel - 19 Jul 2010 11:25 - 3147 of 6906

Boy killed in hit-and-run on Israeli only road, Nablus

http://palsolidarity.org/2008/04/3053/

At approximately 5pm on Monday 7th April, a Palestinian shepherd boy was killed in a hit-and-run incident by an Israeli settler bus near the city of Nablus. The 15 year old boy, Sharif Badjas Ishtayeh, from the nearby village of Salim, was struck by the bus on road 557 an Israeli-only road that connects Huwarra checkpoint with the illegal Israeli settlement of Elon Moreh. Seven of his sheep and one donkey were also killed, as the shepherd attempted to lead them across the road.
Witnesses report that the driver, heading towards the settlement Elon Moreh, hit the boy deliberately, and sped off afterwards, leaving him to die. Indeed, from the location of the bodies, it is evident that the boy and his flock were visible from at least 150 metres away, giving the driver plenty of time to avoid a collision. There is no indication from the evidence on the scene that the driver attempted to slow down at any time before or after the attack.
The identity of the Israeli driver is as yet unknown, as neither driver nor vehicle have been located since the incident.

Distraught Palestinian residents of Salim gathered at the road-side afterwards, by the slain bodies of the sheep. Clashes erupted between locals and Israeli soldiers, resulting in soldiers firing tear gas into the crowd.

The funeral for the boy was held during the night of 7th April, with most of the village turning out to mourn their latest victim of the Israeli occupation.

fahel - 19 Jul 2010 11:37 - 3148 of 6906

Israel dumps waste on Palestinians

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2010/07/201071731516628999.html

Israeli settlements have been dumping untreated waste directly into a sewage canal that runs through the occupied West Bank, affecting Palestinian villages along its banks.

The hazard posed is compounded by the dumping of toxic chemical waste on agricultural land, with villagers reporting a rash of skin diseases and respiratory problems.

The Israeli government has banned plans by the Palestinian Authority to build pipes and pumps to treat and divert wastewater away from the affected villages.

Al Jazeera's Nisreen El-Shamayleh reports.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 12:00 - 3149 of 6906

ah now there's an top-rate, unbiased, independent thinking news source!

Clubman3509 - 19 Jul 2010 12:03 - 3150 of 6906

Flourishing Palestinian sex trade exposed in new report
Group says young Palestinian women are being forced to into prostitution in Ramallah and Jerusalem.
By Amira Hass
Tags: Israel news



Young Palestinian women are being forced to into prostitution in brothels, escort services, and private apartments in Ramallah and Jerusalem, including areas inhabited by Jews, according to a report released Wednesday. The Palestinian organization SAWA (All Women Together Today and Tomorrow) published the paper, the first of its kind, urging Palestinian society to break its silence over its sex industry.

The report was compiled with support by UNIFEM, the United Nations Development Fund for Women, which allotted resources for research on the subject. SAWA conducted research and interviews for the study in the beginning of 2008, but for a variety of reasons has only now been published. The report, which is titled "Trafficking and Forced Prostitution of Palestinian Women and Girls: Forms of Modern Day Slavery," was released in conjunction with the ?Global 16-day Campaign to Combat Violence Against Women."


The report claims that women are trafficked from different areas of the West Bank, in particular urban areas, as well as from the Gaza Strip and Jerusalem. Women from Eastern Europe who are sold into the sex trade in Israel are also occasionally brought to the West Bank, where they work in designated apartments. There are a number of legally registered hotels and cleaning companies that offer "double services," which include sexual services for men.

Researchers only spoke with a small number of people for the study, among them several women, cab drivers, lawyers, hotel owners, and Palestinian police investigators, and came away with the impression that trafficking in the Palestinian territories is not run by a sophisticated network. Researchers also spoke with Palestinian women pimps in their 40s and 50s, who themselves are former prostitutes. One of these pimps had a Jerusalem identity card and owned four apartments. She allowed the women working for her to go out freely, but used intimidation to ensure that they would return. She also supplied them with customers from cities inside Israel.

The report notes that like in other places around the world, women are forced into prostitution due to economic hardship, the Palestinian cases brought to their attention mainly stemmed from incidents of sexual violence, and occasionally forced marriage at a young age. Some of the women mentioned in the report are students at institutions of higher education in the West Bank, and some are high school students. In a number of cases that came to the authors' attention via the press, fathers sold their daughters through "back door" marriages, in which an announcement of marriage is made without the involvement of a religious official. When one girl is seen to be married repeatedly in the same way, it is clear that it is a cover for sex trafficking.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 12:10 - 3151 of 6906

Al Jazeera comments
it's all controlled by Israeli pimps who persuade the gullible parents of these innocent girls that the streets of Jerusalem and Rammallah are paved with gold

Clubman3509 - 19 Jul 2010 12:11 - 3152 of 6906

Bit like telling poles Bradford is

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 12:18 - 3153 of 6906

19/07/2010 - 08:43 AM
A Zionist settler ran over a Palestinian child in Al-Khalil city on Sunday evening then sped away in his motorbike causing serious injuries to the 12-year-old child.

Eyewitnesses said that Abdullah Al-Muhtaseb was thought to be killed at first, but later on he was found suffering serious injuries.

They said that the accident occurred near the Ibrahimi Mosque.

Settlers frequently hit Palestinian citizens on the bypass roads in the West Bank due to reckless driving and absolute disregard for safety of Palestinian pedestrians.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 12:21 - 3154 of 6906

as confirmed by Jeruslem Times who continue, that this sort of thing is not only premeditated murder but has reached massacre proportions

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 12:22 - 3155 of 6906

ISTANBUL
Bulent Yildirim, the head of the Turkish charitable society IHH, has said that the Israeli army's allegation that it was defending itself during its "terrorist" attack on the Freedom Flotilla was nothing but a big lie.

He said on Monday that the Israeli attack on the flotilla was meant as a revenge step against Turkish premier Recep Erdogan for his anti Israeli occupation policies.

Yildirim revealed that the IHH was planning to take legal action against Israel, adding that he met with lawyers from 23 countries and consulted with them over the issue.

He noted that the volunteers, who were aboard the flotilla, from 36 countries also plan to file lawsuits against Israel.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 12:28 - 3156 of 6906

am i not right (or left?) in thinking that IHH is heavily infiltrated by a (pro-hamas) militant faction?
if so, its credibility as a charity is seriously jeopardised

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 12:36 - 3157 of 6906

Not really Hamas. It is muslim and has been around for 15 years or so I guess. It was set up in response to problems in Bosmia. It does work all over the world in 100 countries. It is a charitable aid foundation. It helps with natural disasters such as earthquakes. It is Israel that says that IHH is involved with Hamas. I think it is very unlikely. IHH recognised Hamas as it is the government of Gaza and works with them in terms of aid. Israel doesn't like IHH becuase they recognise Hamas.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 13:01 - 3158 of 6906

hayseed - i think that report came independently from elsewhere .... no doubt you could find it, except you wouldn't want to

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 13:14 - 3159 of 6906

There is some confusion about IHH as it has the same name as a German charity with the same initials who were sued by the Turkish IHH. The only report I have seen about IHH came from Israel or other bodies reporting the story as an Israeli comment. Israel claims it to be a terrorist body as they support and recognise Hamas as the government of Gaza. The IHH has claimed in the past that it deals with Hamas and gives aid via Hamas as it is the best way to make sure the aid actually gets to the people in Gaza.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 13:35 - 3160 of 6906

call me a cynic if you like, but if you are distributing "aid" through a known hostile (terrorist) organisation, rather than through the red cross or similar, then one's motives and impartiality become deeply suspect.

the simplest way for avoiding confrontation - clearly what was NOT wanted - would have been to do it through consultation with other channels, even if it meant routing via ashdod

at least noraid, a blatant front for ira, was marginally more subtle

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 13:51 - 3161 of 6906

They don't need to distribute aid thgrough the Red Cross or Red Crescent as they are an aid organisation themselves. Hamas is the lawful government of Gaza, democratically elected. The tag 'terrorist' is a subjective one. Of course the aid flotilla was meant to be a confrontation. The aim is to stop the Gaza seige as well as distributing aid. IHH is a an Islamic aid organisation in the same way that Christian Aid is a christian organisation as are huge numbers of aid groups. There are probably more religious aid organisations (mainly christian) than non-religious.

Haystack - 19 Jul 2010 13:58 - 3162 of 6906

19/07/2010 - 12:42 PM
An Israeli female soldier admitted in a TV show entitled "soldiers behind the scenes" that she helped once her comrades to kill a Palestinian child in cold blood, but she did not disclose when and where the crime took place.

"I was monitoring through the camera at the command center the movements of Palestinian children throwing stones at the army and directing soldiers to move towards the kids, and under my guidance through the walkie-talkie, they killed a Palestinian kid," the soldier said.

She added that she, afterwards, received congratulations from the soldiers on the killing of the child and claimed she was shocked by this news and felt her directions were the direct cause of the death of this innocent child.

She also confessed that the slain child did not constitute any threat to the heavily-armed soldiers.

Another female soldier also told the channel that she arbitrarily detained and tortured dozens of Palestinian citizens during her shift at the Shave Shomron checkpoint located between Nablus and Jenin.

She blatantly said she detained 80 Palestinians, only for pleasure, and forced them to stay under scorching sunlight while she was yelling at them without any reason and watching them suffer from boiling heat.

cynic - 19 Jul 2010 13:58 - 3163 of 6906

oh yawn yawn yawn ..... i wouldn't expect you, as a blinkered individual, to agree with an objective view, but distributing through an overtly "destructive" and militant organisation like hamas is a very questionable decision for a charity to make ..... i am also 99% certain that CA would not do so

azhar - 19 Jul 2010 14:02 - 3164 of 6906


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Fibi Netanyahu
In 2001, PM boasted of manipulating Oslo accords

By Liel Leibovitz | Jul 15, 2010 4:03 PM | Print | Email / Share
Netanyahu in 2001.

Netanyahu in 2001.

Channel 10

Meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu last week, President Obama could not have been more effusive. I believe Prime Minister Netanyahu wants peace, Obama said. I believe he is ready to take risks for peace.

A newly revealed tape of Netanyahu in 2001, being interviewed while he thinks the cameras are off, shows him in a radically different light. In it, Netanyahu dismisses American foreign policy as easy to maneuver, boasts of having derailed the Oslo accords with political trickery, and suggests that the only way to deal with the Palestinians is to beat them up, not once but repeatedly, beat them up so it hurts so badly, until its unbearable (all translations are mine).

According to Haaretzs Gideon Levy, the video should be Banned for viewing by children so as not to corrupt them, and distributed around the country and the world so that everyone will know who leads the government of Israel.

Netanyahu is speaking to a small group of terror victims in the West Bank settlement of Ofra two years after stepping down as prime minister in 1999. He appears laid-back. After claiming that the only way to deal with the Palestinian Authority was a large-scale attack, Netanyahu was asked by one of the participants whether or not the United States would let such an attack come to fruition.

I know what America is, Netanyahu replied. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They wont get in their way. He then called former president Bill Clinton radically pro-Palestinian, and went on to belittle the Oslo peace accords as vulnerable to manipulation. Since the accords state that Israel would be allowed to hang on to pre-defined military zones in the West Bank, Netanyahu told his hosts that he could torpedo the accords by defining vast swaths of land as just that.

They asked me before the election if Id honor [the Oslo accords], Netanyahu said. I said I would, but Im going to interpret the accords in such a way that would allow me to put an end to this galloping forward to the 67 borders. How did we do it? Nobody said what defined military zones were. Defined military zones are security zones; as far as Im concerned, the entire Jordan Valley is a defined military zone. Go argue.

Smiling, Netanyahu then recalled how he forced former U.S. Secretary of State Warren Christopher to agree to let Israel alone determine which parts of the West Bank were to be defined as military zones. They didnt want to give me that letter, Netanyahu said, so I didnt give them the Hebron agreement [the agreement giving Hebron back to the Palestinians]. I cut the cabinet meeting short and said, Im not signing. Only when the letter came, during that meeting, to me and to Arafat, did I ratify the Hebron agreement. Why is this important? Because from that moment on, I de facto put an end to the Oslo accords.

President Obama, and anyone else concerned about Israels commitment to the peace process, may watch the tape online here.

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/39692/fibi-netanyahu/

azhar - 19 Jul 2010 14:03 - 3165 of 6906

Watch the video here

http://news.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleId=731025&sid=126
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